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| Author: | tweeby [ Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:15 pm ] |
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Ha, yeah I can't believe I'm writing this cos I know exactly what I need to do, but FUCK it I feel like I need a kick up the arse. So there's this girl, I picked up. It was a total pick-up at the bus stop. Day game feels so sick. Basically, solid opener and good text game. In the end I fucked up cos I was too into her too early. I bought her a 'rose' and did all kind of cute puppy dog and ice-cream crap. Ha ha. Lesson FUCKING learned. She's calls it off - LJBF's, and tells me she was seeing someone else at the time. I believe this to be true, basically, I think she was dating both me and him at the same time and then was going to make a decision. At times it felt like I was in there because she called me twice to organise a date, and she gave hints like she was happy to date me. Anyway it fucked up, so I broke off contact with her and I told myself I'm not gonna ring or contact her. A month passes. And she calls me out of the blue. 'Heyy tweeby, so it's been a long time. If you wanna hang out sometime we can. Just let me know, I'm free x,y,z.' My old self would just pass this off because I know, no good can come of this. But I wanna learn everything I can, even if it means grinding through the pain barrier. Anyway, so I organise to meet up. But she flakes. Giving some lame excuse that her parents are too strict - which I know to be absolute bullshit cos even the girls who are locked down with a ball and chain will make every effort to break out if they're truly interested in the guy. Instead, she says let's meet up in two weeks when she starts school. She's a trainee teacher. So, in a moment of clarity I realize this girl is gaming me (or trying to lol.) I think she still likes me, but will only hook up with me when things are going wrong with her other man. I have no issue with this other guy. If I can get what I want out of her, I WILL. And I am actively gaming other girls now. The question is, when I see her again, do I just straight up call her out. Tell her I know what she's up to. Or do I keep cool and try to escalate with her. Or just break all contact and sack it off. Comments appreciated. And if you feel like I'm still behaving like a pussy don't be afraid to doll out the shyt! |
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| Author: | trackjunkie [ Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:32 pm ] |
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let her go, it hurts too much for a girl to flake. I have a one strike policy, she does 1, just 1 of these I will never call her again, or go out of my way, or pay for dinner, strictly sexual after that and only if she's willing to put the effort forward |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:58 am ] |
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"Call her out" if you have the emotional maturity of a 10 year old and this "hurts too much . . ." Boo hoo . . . mommy told me she'd buy me a the Transformer action figure but she didn't . . . she's tricking me . . . Boo hoo . . . But if you KNOW what she's up to, why not use this to your advantage? First of all. . . laugh . . . I mean really, really laugh, and then laugh some more. This is funny, funny, funny. A little school teacher wannabe is trying to game you . . .the PUA. This is HILARIOUS! 1. Never mind the "other guy". She's not waiting for that action to end. She's looking for a MAN to step up and sweep her off of her feet away from her boring, zombie boyfriend. 2. Think of something fun and invite her. If she flakes, you punish her but you don't do this "directly". You DON'T TELL her directly, "Ohhh. . . I thought you were going out with me but you didn't and now I am hurt." No . . . You wait a few days and tell her something like, "What happened? You totally missed out! ______ and ______ showed up at the party and we had a blast! Well, _____ will be throwing another party in about 2 months I think . . . This little "game" has already gone over a month. You can wait another month or a year . . . THIS IS YOUR FRAME. You're having so much freakin' fun with your life . . . she can either join or go back to her nose picking, belly scratchin' dud of a boyfriend. You don't give a rat's ass. The choice is hers . . . (But not really . . . ) If you had exuded this confidence, you would have bonked her already. |
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| Author: | Jav [ Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:57 am ] |
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Quote: "Call her out" if you have the emotional maturity of a 10 year old and this "hurts too much . . ." Boo hoo . . . mommy told me she'd buy me a the Transformer action figure but she didn't . . . she's tricking me . . . Boo hoo . . .
But if you KNOW what she's up to, why not use this to your advantage? First of all. . . laugh . . . I mean really, really laugh, and then laugh some more. This is funny, funny, funny. A little school teacher wannabe is trying to game you . . .the PUA. This is HILARIOUS! 1. Never mind the "other guy". She's not waiting for that action to end. She's looking for a MAN to step up and sweep her off of her feet away from her boring, zombie boyfriend. 2. Think of something fun and invite her. If she flakes, you punish her but you don't do this "directly". You DON'T TELL her directly, "Ohhh. . . I thought you were going out with me but you didn't and now I am hurt." No . . . You wait a few days and tell her something like, "What happened? You totally missed out! ______ and ______ showed up at the party and we had a blast! Well, _____ will be throwing another party in about 2 months I think . . . This little "game" has already gone over a month. You can wait another month or a year . . . THIS IS YOUR FRAME. You're having so much freakin' fun with your life . . . she can either join or go back to her nose picking, belly scratchin' dud of a boyfriend. You don't give a rat's ass. The choice is hers . . . (But not really . . . ) If you had exuded this confidence, you would have bonked her already. This. times 10. |
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| Author: | seduction82 [ Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:00 pm ] |
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Call her out on it in this situation i feel. Just say you are not a genuine person trying to use all this game crap on me - its pretty lame. No woman likes thinking of herself as ungenuine so this works great. |
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| Author: | tweeby [ Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:49 pm ] |
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Kasabi, I assume by your penchant for sarcasm it WOULDN'T be a good idea to call her out. But I thought if I delivered it with confidence and indifference it might put her in her place? I'm not gonna bother contacting her again. Fuck that, if I see her again at the bus stop, well damn, who cares. I'll be outrageously flirty if she wants to slap me who cares... I've spent too much time on this girl. Thanks for the feedback. I know what I should have done. Lesson learned, won't do it again. |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:54 pm ] |
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Quote: Call her out on it in this situation i feel. Just say you are not a genuine person trying to use all this game crap on me - its pretty lame. No woman likes thinking of herself as ungenuine so this works great.
This works great to "relieve your frustration" + "make her feel shitty" + "break the deal". Remember, this isn't some situation where you have FULL PROOF of what's going on. It's simply your opinion based on a few events + some intuition. She'll deny it, tell you that you're an idiot, and that's about it.This dynamic exists in many other situations when dealing with people. Examples: You feel that an otherwise great employee is embezzling money. Sure you can call him out. But he'll deny it and then quit. You just lost an otherwise talented employee. Or you can tell him something like, "Jeeze, what happened to our budget on the Smith Account? I thought we were keeping things in tight order . . . etc . . ." (People usually get the message) Or You feel that the people you're doing business with aren't being completely forthright. Well, you can "CALL THEM OUT". In which case you will most likely lose a potentially great deal and risk the guy telling other potential business associates that you're an idiot . . . or you can continue negotiating, being mindful of all that is going on. This is the way to get WHAT YOU WANT. If "principles" and relieving your immediate suspicions are your goals, then by all means call people out and stick it to them. But if you have higher goals that can be attained by working with those people, then breathe, relax, strategize, and follow through. There is no greater satisfaction than out gaming a "gamer" . . . This is what makes our game so much fun. |
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| Author: | tweeby [ Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:16 pm ] |
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Well that's clarified it. I like the way you think Kasabi. Calling her out won't get me any closer to her vagina. Does that line sound familiar? If she wants to play games, bring it on damn right. But foremost, I must understand she is NOT a prime target. And I must look elsewhere for the pussy. With this mindset I'll continue. If I can't then I must drop her, OR more importantly work on my inner GAME cos it is seriously still lacking. |
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| Author: | DJ Fuji [ Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:02 pm ] |
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Kasabi is a wise one indeed. |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:48 pm ] |
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Quote: Well that's clarified it. I like the way you think Kasabi.
I don't think you need to focus on your "inner game". Everything will fall into place when your overall game improves. In order for this to occur, consider clarifying your outer game. Clarify the differences between your GOALS and your STRATEGY.Calling her out won't get me any closer to her vagina. Does that line sound familiar? If she wants to play games, bring it on damn right. But foremost, I must understand she is NOT a prime target. And I must look elsewhere for the pussy. With this mindset I'll continue. If I can't then I must drop her, OR more importantly work on my inner GAME cos it is seriously still lacking. If your goal is to receive an "A" from your professor, you don't just ask your professor, "Give me an A!" If your goal is to beat your buddy in a basketball game, you don't just ask him, "Let me beat you OK?" It is OK for you to admit to yourself that the "Bus Stop Girl" is your primary target. It's OK for you to admit to yourself that you really, really, really want to bone her. If you want to date her, it's OK for you to admit to yourself that you want to date her. These are your goals. There is absolutely no reason to compromise your goals. And unless your goals are absolutely clear, you won't have any direction. You wrote above that "YOU must understand that she is not the prime target". Think about this carefully; what you probably meant is that "You must CONVINCE HER that she is not the prime target." There is a big difference between the two. (And this is only one possible way to get closer to her vagina) And of course, if your goal is to get closer to other vagina, then by all means admit this to yourself and build a strategy for that as well. 1. She told you that she wanted to hang out with you when she starts school. Who cares why? Think of something fun to do and call her up at that time. 2. She agrees and you're in. She comes up with another excuse and you go, "Oh well . . . next time." Then you call her a few days later and tell her how much fun you had. Then you don't ask her out again at that time but just tell her that you'll call her when you have time. . . Bye, bye . . ." (Then go ahead and call her up later on) What do you think will happen with your life if you repeat 1 and 2 over and over again with with several girls? Let me tell you what. You'll need to keep a separate calendar just to keep your dates straight. Your "inner game" will improve on its own . . . Above all, let's not talk about quitting before you've even begun . . . |
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