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Author:  trixsta [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Stuck for the first time in over a year... What do I do?
Basically, like kinoescalator's thread where he wants people to respond, I am stuck with a girl and at a loss for what to do next.

This hasn't happened to me in months, but this girl just happens to be the girl on my 'most want to fuck' list.

I don't want any one-itus or anything, but she is my only target SPAM (I am still looking for others) and I would be slightly disappointed if I didn't get to at least get with her, however it is no biggie and tjhere's thousands of girls waiting for me at Newcastle Uni when I go there in September.

A girl of this high value, does game change anywhere? I haven't changed my game at all and treated her like any other girl I would. Sure, she is special, but she can't know that. Also, girls like her are constantly getting guys hit on her, which is where the problem is. Like us PUAs, she can
choose.

She lives down my street and she always talks to me if she sees me in a club or at a party even though we don't actually know each other, but before I always used to get nervous, now I don't, because remember, she'd be lucky to get me, right? :) She asked before to get a taxi with me when I go home (same street) and I said "ok give me your number" and it worked. We didn't get a taxi but we've texted a few times, not loads though.

Last Sunday on MSN she said "I didn't see you last night, did I?" (she didn't, i didn't go to the bar we both usually go to) and we just got talking, and I told her to come shopping with me tomorrow as I need some new clothes (how convenient) but she had college so she couldn't. She said there was a party on at a bar later on the night and would I come, I asekd about details and she reinforced with "you should come" so I told her to text me half an hour before she went so I could get changed and I'd go.

No text. Didn't ask her where my text was because I'm such a popular guy I had forgot we were even meant to be going (I hadn't, but that's what she needs to think), and as I was leaving McDonalds where I work last night I passed her in my mam's car going there, so I texted her saying "if you're going to mcdonalds, we're closed" and she phoned me to ask if I would go in the Drive-Thru, I couldn't but said "nah I'm nearly home, sorry".

That was last night, Wednesday, and now I am unsure of what to do and how to go about it.

Just because I say she's the highest on most people's 'want to fuck' list doesn't mean I'm into her, or I've got one-itus, or anything else, so please give me only helpful advice.

Sorry for the long post, but I don't ask for help often, and now I really need it :)
I appreciate all replies, no matter whether you're AFC, PUA, or mPUA.

Edit

I think I know what I have to do. Carry on how I am playing and tell her to come with me in an activity again, but not sure. Anything I should do that I haven't and things liek that is what I'm looking for.
Author:  Chief [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:29 pm ]
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Have you tried... seducing her?
Author:  Monkey [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:35 pm ]
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Every time you say "I don't have oneitis," I think "He has oneitis." If you have so many other options, why is this one girl (who you have obviously fucked up seducing) so important? Right, she's special. She can choose, which is an ability so many women lack... If you have the chicken pox, you'd might as well just tell people; the spots are already on your face...

Why are you fucking around with the long-game? She lives down your street, you guys see each other all the time, you have her phone number... Where's the problem here?

Ah, right, you put the power into her hands. You told her to send you a text, and she didn't obey, so you let it slide. You're "such a popular guy" that you missed an opportunity to meet in person and actually have a chance at seducing her. You're so popular you punish people for mistreating you by completely ignoring them like a git. If this girl is as special and high-value as you say she is, she probably did not remember she was supposed to text you at all. She had other shit to do. Like get ready for the party from which she was hoping you'd take her home.

This is a simple thing. "You were supposed to text me and you did not. I'm a busy man and you're lucky I remembered this party at all. I could be playing a riveting game of Dungeons and Dragons right this very moment. Next time (and there should not be a next time) I spank you."

From there, as Chief so adeptly pointed out, you get to the work of actually seducing her, as it seems to me you haven't done that yet. I see nothing in relation to kino escalation. I see no notes on the methods or techniques or routines or patterns that make up this fine game. I see nothing but your pining over a young lady and waiting for her to call on you. You may want to step it up.
Author:  trixsta [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:55 pm ]
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I've tried (and failed) with rapprt, kino escalation and stuff but friends always end up appearing, as does her girl gang, and after a while she goes with one who needs to get a drink etc, or something. I jsut think "oh well there's next time". Next time I'll try and avoid that, by saying "oh what are you buying me?" and leading them both to the bar as if I'm not tagging along.

I don't really have this problem with average girls, there's not 50 million girls hanging off her back, and I don't feel as if isolation would work as I've hardly built enough comfort, but realising that she lives down my street I already have enough comfort. It's so easy to spot other people's mistakes but never your own.

I say about oneitis because I see people put it as standard response or something to say. She's special because she's really pretty, and I've always wanted to seduce a 10. Granted I'm only young at 18, but why wait?

I've actually done some dumb mistakes, thank you for helping me realise that.
Author:  Chief [ Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:55 am ]
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Quote:
I've tried (and failed) with rapprt, kino escalation and stuff
This is why I'm normally pissed at the seduction community overall nowadays and why I'm usually trying to pressure Gunwitch into stepping up his marketing more.

Rapport, kino escalation, and stuff? Is that what seduction is to you? Yeah, rapport and kino escalation are a bit important to have (ESPECIALLY kino), but seriously? Are those the concepts that FIRST come to your mind when you think "seduction?"

Everyone: Read gunwitch method. Please.

As much as I respect Mystery for spearheading our community out from the shadows and leading us into new directions, I really can't stand how the pervasiveness of indirect game has suppressed the concept of SEXUALITY even further than most AFCs have done to themselves.

Seduction is about sex and sexuality. Seduction just can't be done without using SEXUAL STATE (sexual state projection). A seducer needs to know what he's doing when he's building SEXUAL TENSION and maybe even utilizing some techniques of SEXUAL FRAMING.

Not only do we have Hollywood bullshit trying to distract us from what real seduction is by attempting to dismember the concept of romance from sexuality and holding romance in a higher light because of whatever politically correct agenda whoever is imposing on society, we also have the most popular PUA companies completely ignoring sexuality by shifting all the focus on SOCIAL SKILLS that only land you in the friend zone if not accompanied by actual sexually-related seduction skills. It pisses me the fuck off.

In short, you need to relearn what the fuck seduction is.

By the way, none of my contempt and anger is directed toward you lol it's all directed toward the top pickup companies
Author:  trixsta [ Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:07 pm ]
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I don't think kino escalation and rapport and all that stuff is the first thing about seduction. When I think 'seduction' I think charm and wit, before I got into the game I relied on humour and confidence, and I kino'd subconciously. I wasn't bad with women before I got into the game; not everyone is, but neither was I anything special.

I'll check up on this gunwitch method.
Author:  Jav [ Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:23 pm ]
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Girls are there to be taken.

YOU ARE A MAN.

stop thinking like a woman.

You are a man, you create opportunities. unlike a woman who waits for them.
the mindset of her being the chooser isn't going to help you either.


Mind you I'm not being angry at you, I'm pissed off at society that made us like this.
just my 5 cents.
Author:  TheTruthPUA [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:51 pm ]
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Man ... sorry to say it, but you already lost ... she is not interested I think you wait to long for the attraction, its kind of like going from a friend to lovers ... I think you need to just keep it moving man ... her obviously not getting back to you and such is a bad indication of interest ... I think you should of brought her to her feet from the beginning ... flirted and such ...
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