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| Author: | crabbypatty [ Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:32 pm ] |
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Ok for me my biggest problem is defintely just going up to a random group of girls or a signle girl and gaming her. Why not because i'm shy or not confident it just to me seems kinda like she would know im hitting on her or creepy. Like I just need help on knowing what to say and how to approach. Like me and my buddy want to go girl shopping in the mall and i dont know how I should approach girls like just go up to them and say something random? Please I need someone to really explain this to me. |
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| Author: | Peng [ Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:56 pm ] |
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These issues are covered all over this forum, which is good news for you! There are lots of things you could say to a girl, so that A) she doesnt immediately think you are hitting on her, and B) you dont feel like she thinks you are, so you are more natural. But in actual fact, you've just opened the sarge. This is why people rant on so much about "opinion openers" where you simply ask for a girl, or group of girls, opinion on something, and take the conversation from there. Im rubbish at explaining these things, but there are posts ALL OVER this forum for dealing with exactly your issue. |
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| Author: | Stygian [ Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:58 pm ] |
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This is why we have indirect game, Mystery Method, Speed Seduction etc. This is so we can fly in under the radar and win the set over before making your intentions clear. Besides which, why should you care? If the set goes well then great, more power to you. If the set goes badly then so what? It's not likely that you'll see them again and if you do then chances are you'll be able to laugh about it in retrospect. Either learn indirect game and get used to approaching like that or learn direct game (David X, Gunwitch, etc) so you can power through and get used to approaching in a more direct manner. After a number of approaches, and especially failed approaches you will be almost immune to rejection as you will learn that rejection is necessary for success. This is true with both direct and indirect game but with direct you have a better chance to begin with of being rejected if you are a rAFC so you will quicker adjust to rejection (and the comedy of it) than you would with indirect game. |
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| Author: | crabbypatty [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:46 am ] |
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I understand that and besides an opinion opener whats a way to talk to girls lets say at a mall and mix in sets. And once u get a convo going should u try to talk for awhile and then number seal? |
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| Author: | Stygian [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:15 am ] |
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"Hi" is a popular conversation starter. If you're out of ideas you can use a situational opener but I would advise having somewhere to go from there before doing so, something to stack forward with so to speak otherwise you'll make a random observation of the surroundings and be gone before she can wonder what you're talking about. A good and simple way to stak forward would be some kind of cold read "You seem like a really talkative girl" "You're very outspoken, how did you get like that?" These are simple lines off the top of my head but they should help a lot with getting past the opener at least long enough to think of something to say that will actually be an engaging conversation, also you can stack forward with these with a sort of EV routine (Yeah, I hate people who are afraid to talk to strangers, they're always boring types). Happy sarging! |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:49 am ] |
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Quote: I understand that and besides an opinion opener whats a way to talk to girls lets say at a mall and mix in sets. And once u get a convo going should u try to talk for awhile and then number seal?
It's just like homework. You might "understand" it but unless you actually WRITE IT down, and PRACTICE IT, you will never be able to do it. It's like saying you read a book on "Kung Fu" and so now you know Kung Fu. This is silly. Write that stuff down. Practice in front of a mirror. Practice with your friends. Practice with your grandma. Practice with your sister. Practice on strangers. Practice, practice, practice. You're looking for a number, you're looking for her vagina. Dude, you've got to first be able to carry on a normal conversation. |
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