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Author:  speedybg [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:23 am ]
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I went to this party and saw this hb10 who was in one of my classes, but i had never talked to her before. so i just asked her how i knew her cuz she looked familiar. and she was like im in your class. then we talked for a long time, and she wants to study. i dont wanna get in the friend zone with her when we are studying. what should i do???
Author:  QuarterBack [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:51 am ]
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Hmmm.. I would make a joke about what we're studying. Act like you forgot what class she had with you and bring another classes books with you to study. "Oh what? You're not in THIS class?" Make a joke of it...

Or bring something else that would be funny to "study." Or bring a movie... "I thought this would be better than studying..." Or, "After studying I'll reward you by having the honor or watching this movie with me... think of it as a prize for studying hard." ;)

I don't know, those are just some things that would come to mind if I was in that situation. Once I make her laugh and touch her on the shoulder while smiling - that usually makes her really comfortable around me. Before you know it, you'll be talking about other things and NOT studying...

--QB
Author:  kasabi [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:27 am ]
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No no . . .

The proper thing would have been to have K closed her right there at that party. She asked YOU if you want to study together. She's already demonstrated interest. So you should have said, "There's no way I'm getting any work done with you around me looking all sexy and smelling like that. No way in hell am I studying with you."

Instead, you were just happy to spend any time with her so you nodded, "Uh huh . . ."

Now you go study with her and do your "fun act" like some gay dude or one of her girlfriends and you're going to be deep into the friend zone.

So when you study with her, you've got to do what you should have done:

As soon as you see her and you go . . ."Oh shit. . . no, no . . . this is all wrong. There's no way I'm getting any work done with you looking all sexy like this. I'm gonna be thinking about kissing you the whole time."

Or you give her the "look" as soon as you see her but 10 minutes into the books, you go, "This isn't working at all . . ."

She is the object and fooling around is the entertainment. No movies or video games or hair salon gossip like a bunch of fairies.
Author:  speedybg [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:33 pm ]
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isnt it bad though if i say i cant study with u lookin all sexy becuase im tryin to make her value lower than mine?? and i did do some kino at the party.. thanks for the posts so far..
Author:  PonyBoy [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:21 pm ]
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No no . . .

The proper thing would have been to have K closed her right there at that party. She asked YOU if you want to study together. She's already demonstrated interest. So you should have said, "There's no way I'm getting any work done with you around me looking all sexy and smelling like that. No way in hell am I studying with you."

Instead, you were just happy to spend any time with her so you nodded, "Uh huh . . ."

Now you go study with her and do your "fun act" like some gay dude or one of her girlfriends and you're going to be deep into the friend zone.

So when you study with her, you've got to do what you should have done:

As soon as you see her and you go . . ."Oh shit. . . no, no . . . this is all wrong. There's no way I'm getting any work done with you looking all sexy like this. I'm gonna be thinking about kissing you the whole time."

Or you give her the "look" as soon as you see her but 10 minutes into the books, you go, "This isn't working at all . . ."

She is the object and fooling around is the entertainment. No movies or video games or hair salon gossip like a bunch of fairies.
Yeah and you can also look extra creepy. A study date isn't a a high energy bar setting, keep the vibe relaxed but make it known that you actually came there to study. If you wanted to hook up you would have gone and done something else. If shes having trouble with the material neg the fuck out of her with a smile on your face and then reel her back in by helping her, great opportunity to push pull. Your already DHVing by helping her study so keep going in that direction with it, women find intelligence sexy but don't confuse intelligent with nerdy ha. This direct approach in a non sexually charged environment will probably cause you to get blown out. Remember she asked you to study, shes already interested in you enough to hang out one on one. Kick back and act like the prize that you are.
Author:  Gander [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:30 pm ]
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No no . . .

The proper thing would have been to have K closed her right there at that party. She asked YOU if you want to study together. She's already demonstrated interest. So you should have said, "There's no way I'm getting any work done with you around me looking all sexy and smelling like that. No way in hell am I studying with you."

Instead, you were just happy to spend any time with her so you nodded, "Uh huh . . ."

Now you go study with her and do your "fun act" like some gay dude or one of her girlfriends and you're going to be deep into the friend zone.

So when you study with her, you've got to do what you should have done:

As soon as you see her and you go . . ."Oh shit. . . no, no . . . this is all wrong. There's no way I'm getting any work done with you looking all sexy like this. I'm gonna be thinking about kissing you the whole time."

Or you give her the "look" as soon as you see her but 10 minutes into the books, you go, "This isn't working at all . . ."

She is the object and fooling around is the entertainment. No movies or video games or hair salon gossip like a bunch of fairies.
Yeah and you can also look extra creepy. A study date isn't a a high energy bar setting, keep the vibe relaxed but make it known that you actually came there to study. If you wanted to hook up you would have gone and done something else. If shes having trouble with the material neg the fuck out of her with a smile on your face and then reel her back in by helping her, great opportunity to push pull. Your already DHVing by helping her study so keep going in that direction with it, women find intelligence sexy but don't confuse intelligent with nerdy ha. This direct approach in a non sexually charged environment will probably cause you to get blown out. Remember she asked you to study, shes already interested in you enough to hang out one on one. Kick back and act like the prize that you are.
Second that^ except for.. 'neg the fuck out of her' I do agree to neg her but there's a point to where you need to stop.. don't neg to make her feel like a jack ass.. negging is just to bring her down from her high horse. Don't neg if you don't neccessarily need to.

Studying is just a way to break the ice.. make sure to build comfort but I wouldn't push beyond that.. save that for day 2
Author:  kasabi [ Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:22 am ]
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You can push pull for the entire semester if you want to. "Study Buddies! Hurray! . . ." Demonstrate that you're a HIGHLY valuable tutor! Let's make that move on the 2nd date and follow the laws of attraction! What are you actually pulling here? (Great, you helped her with her calc!) What are you actually pushing here?(Ohhh. . . now I won't help you with your calc!) Incredible turn-on's.

Now I know I'm being sarcastic but you were requesting for a way to get her out of the "friends zone".

You already skidded off in the wrong direction in my mind. You have to make your intentions clear. There is nothing low value about giving in to her sexuality. This is the most important thing in the World. You can't make it seem too easy for them . . . but, if you do not allow woman to feel the powers of their sexuality, then they'll simply project their negative emotions out to you through, "He's probably gay . . . he's not confident enough . . . he's too shy . . . " Their levels of "attraction" actually go down when they do this; you're locked in the friend's zone.

Now the recommendations given to you aren't bad. I'm not saying you can't score this way . . . but the problem is that it's a low risk, pussy footing around method. With this method, if you don't score with her, "Well . . . at least we'll be great pals!" ---- Great . . . kick back and act like the non-sexual eunuch stylee prize that you are.

Believe me, there is nothing creepy about being confident and direct. Guys . . . the indirect, direct methods are for OPENING only. Once you're in, you better escalate that shit toward a sexually charged direction or your FUCKED (not in a good way)

Once you make your intentions clear. Once she says to herself, "Wow, I really want to fuck this guy . . ." - Then at least you have a choice. Then you can sit back and go be the prize. Now you're a sexual prize . . .

Just my opinion . . .
Author:  Stormy [ Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:28 am ]
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You are where you are now. Forget what you "could have" done. You can't change the past.

Study with the girl, that's cool. The fact that she's expressed interest in studying with you is good news, as is the fact that you managed to hold a conversation with her for as long as you did.

You just need to push forward now.

Get her to celebrate the end of exams with you. "Hey, my last exam is on X date and I'm going out drinking to celebrate. Wanna come get hammered?" Keep the tone of the invitation vaguely platonic and then amp up the flirty vibe when you're out and about with her on the Day2(3?).
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