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Author:  AlexCS [ Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:20 am ]
Post subject:  In really need of wisdom of PUA's.

Hey!! I'm new at this forum. Although I registered a while ago, this is my first post besides the introduction that I wrote some minutes ago.

This is my issue. I want to become a PUA and date a lot of women but I somehow feel that I need to close this business with a girl first (I think is just my ego, she isn’t that hot really, but you’ll tell me as you read on).

I don’t want to bore you guys, but this is going to take some words, I’ll try to be brief as possible (however I don’t think I can)

This is the thing:
I met this girl 5 years ago. At that time she was in the same classroom as I studying the same bachelor as I. First I didn’t like her, to be honest, but I started noticing that she liked me in some way, but she’s like a…. girl (lol) and she didn’t want to reveal what she felt, she just kinda flirted with me. This flirting started to work, I actually started to like her, so I flirted with her. I thought, she likes me, and I have to admit that I’m a little proud of character, so I wanted her to take the initiative (she likes me, so wtf then), but every time I thought she would hit on me directly (meaning saying her to me: I want you, I like you, I want a kiss) she started acting as she don’t liked me(again, she’s a chick, and a special one) and that just made me pissed, and again, because of my ego, I didn’t do anything, that was kinda what happened 5 years ago. We flirted to each other, nothing happened.

Well, She changed of major so I started to see her just occasionally, at clubs, parties…. but Really really sporadically. I know now that I messed things up a lot by being that damn proud and obviously I didn’t know anything about this community and how to implement techniques to turn her on and made her to want me.

Well 5 years have passed, We contacted each other by live messenger, and this time we arranged a date, she accepted, so last Friday we went to have some drinks. I think everything went good, we hang around for about 4 hours (I want to think she was really enjoying this since she didn’t asked me to take her home, actually I was the one to tell her that it was time to go). Since I’m from Mexico, the tradition is that while you are not married you live with your folks, and, in case of girls, parents are very protective and its normal that some girls can’t arrive home very late. Also girls here are less direct as in other country’s in terms of sexual stuff, I can say that here women are more conservative (but not insanely, just a bit more) but I know that this doesn’t matter a lot, women are women no matter where they come from right? Well I tried to apply some techniques that I learned, some of them work, but I really have to improve in this area, I’m still in kinder garden regarding to start creating attraction by seduction, kino escalation and stuff. Anyway, we dated again like 3 hours ago, we went to a coffee shop. Before the date, I was thinking, damn, I need to at least K-close today, so I started to learn some seduction routines and stuff. Basically I couldn’t apply them, she was kinda different today . When I drove her home I tried a Ross Jeffrie’s routine I think, i’ts mention at The Game by Neil Strauss (the one of the ball of a specific color that represents a feeling of happiness and starts growing as she breathes). I think it worked in some rare way, she said that when I touch her she felt strange and nervous, and she started to ask me were did I learn this stuff a lot of time.

The issue and the reason that I’m writing this is that I couldn’t K-close. I didn’t know how to get her IOI’s, I’m a newbie on this, besides she’s kinda a strange girl, as a result of this, I dind’t have the guts to try the K-close. I think that she likes me, otherwise she weren’t dating me, she even get kinda jealous when I told her about a girl that is chasing me ,lol, and starts asking me questions about her), but I don’t know how to recognize her IOI’s, shes kinda cold about showing her feelings, I think she just don’t want to show them in a very open way like other girls. Hope you understand how she is.

I really need to at least K-close this girl and in some way start a relation with her, and hopefully see that is my ego that makes want her just to close her, or maybe I’ll see that actually I kinda like her. Whatever the case, I just want to close this girl and see what happens and I want this to happen in the next date (hopefully she accepts again), so please Help!!!!!!

Pua’s, Please Advise!!!!!!!!!!!!
How many days should I wait for the next date (I don’t want that these feelings between us vanish)? And hell, What do I need to do to get that kiss at the next date and maybe start thinking of beginning the relationship?

Damn, really sorry for making this long (I know I promised not to), I’m not a good English writer (sorry for the lots of kinda’s and started’s), sorry for my spelling.
Best Regards.

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