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Author:  manutdfan [ Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Eye-contact

Hey,

I'm walking around college all the time and sometimes I make eye contact with a girl, usually because I am looking at her and she looks back. Their usual reaction is to look down, at that point I just look forward again.. I do it with confidence, and I have the reputation of having very nice green eyes.. But the question is, because they look down, does that just mean she is not interested and that you're too ugly?

Author:  LokeAlive [ Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:24 am ]
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Don't be so hard on yourself.

Anyway, I'm kinda curious to that myself. Granted there is probably no absolute "right" way to handle it, how might a PUA handle it.

What impression do you send off if you just stare her down, and then flash her a smile. How about a hesitant smile? Anyway:

I go around, and depending on how I feel, I look at them, then I get eye-contact. That is a subtle IoI. Then you can follow up on some random bullshit, but make it sound congruent, "I noticed something about your..." pick an item, bag, coat, etc... She'll almost always ask what. Notice she is asking YOU so you don't loose that much value. "they make purses like that in Scandinavia, ever been?" Follow it up with a story. In any case what I'm trying to say is the transition is smooth, and its not awkward. Don't be afraid to screw it up multiple times, although I'm a little hypocritical in saying that because I often loose the heart.

Note though that I am still an AFC.

Author:  dmacfour [ Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:54 am ]
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I heard that looking down usually means they are shy...

Author:  Okiokdan [ Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:32 pm ]
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Immediately looking down = submission. She's submissive to you and maybe a tad shy ;) Are you a big person? Or anything else why she would feel "intimidated"?

Author:  mPUA Savior [ Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:55 pm ]
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its a form of looking away, there is no trick to o she looks this way she is this and if she looks this way she is taht...

dude go to wal mart, the mall wherever and you'll see when you look at someone most the time they will look away its just normal behavior it doesnt mean your ugly or there shy, or outgoing, or want sex, or are gay, or whatever else looking away could possible mean....of course what i stated above in the bold is a bit of an exaggeration but im getting to the point that

looking away just is normal

Author:  Gander [ Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:46 pm ]
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I'm going to agree with MPUA savior.. I read this post this morning and while walking around campus watched the eye contact I got. Girls will look and look away.. it's if they look back most the time you can tell if they've seen something they like but that's not sure fire. and them looking away is not them saying they don't want you either. It's just a basic human behavior they don't want it to be awkward or whatever. Just get eye contact, flash a smile, and open if you want.

You're signature is a little downgrading to yourself man. Build yourself up. I'm six three as well and girls seem to dig it. You have green eyes and I've personally never heard someone say anything negative about it.
You've got great qualities about yourself, everyone does, find them and concentrate on them. You're weaknesses will dissappear. It's all frame of mind.

Author:  manutdfan [ Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:22 pm ]
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thanks to all of you. About the submission, yes i am pretty big (not necessarily fat, i don't have the perfect body but its not like i have fat hanging around me all the time) and so that might be it.

I see I gave the wrong idea about myself, I was very unconfident and very shy not too long ago, but now I am very confident. It is just that sooo many girls have looked away (I have to admit sometimes they looked away smiling) that I just thought that maybe it was because of my looks. What I've learnt in this PUA world is that this is much more about looks.

Gander, thanks for this confidence boost. I greatly appreciate it.

Thanks guys!

Author:  Ezo [ Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:47 am ]
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If she gives you eye contact it could be a signal to approach but it is difficult to say without having seen it first hand.
Normally they do look away, to the side is neutral or dominant and down is submissive. If they look back within a few moments it means that they are interested.
Advice: If she is breaking eye contact, break it too and keep an eye on her from the corner of your eye. If she looks back, open.

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