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Author:  tipaj [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:38 pm ]
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ok so there's that HB8 sitting in front of class (college) and it turned out that i was late for class and all the seats where taken. well anyways, i took a chair and sat almost across from her, because there's a looser beside her and is by no means a competition to me (positive).
So she gave me all kinds of IOI's like hair, looking at me (she thoght i won't see but i saw with side of my vision, although i wasn't looking at her), she was touching her hair like a maniac and i know that she doesn't usually do that.
Well, anyways, i opened very lame, but it worked in the class environment:
Did you finish the homework? She said: No.
After that during the class i commented on teacher a little bit, ask the guy beside her where he was from, then switched onto her, then i talked about myself, asked her about my accent:
-How long do think i've been here, because i don't have a very strong accent in english anymore?
-I don't know...how long?
-Well... guess....
now came a smile, she blinked her eyes and looked away, but the blink was weird - it's like while she blinked she blinked in between the blink. LOL.and she said
-I don't know.
-Well i've been her only for blablabla that's why you couldn't guess cuz i have a weird accent, not tupical for people from my country.
Then i asked a few questions about class work.
Then was the break, i went for a smoke in hope she'll come and i'll borow her lighter. She didn't come soon enough so i smoked when she came she didn't come by but stopped on the opposite street and turned away from me. Weird, but i'm thinking she didn't see me. When i was leaving back to class i demonstratively came by her and threw my cigaret away. She came shortly after me. While that happened i chatted with teacher, then another girl. Then i came back to desk. I stood there, then caught her eye contact and asked:
-Do you wear contacts?
She didn't expect that question from me, but she certainly was asked this question before.
-I used to, - she answered - but now i don't, it's my natural colour.
-Your eyes are beautiful. (they trully were)
Then came an IOI from her side nad a smile and a: Thank you.
After that class started, we chatted a bit about problems that we were solving.
After the class was done i said: I'll see you guys tommorow. An i left home.

I know that wasn't the best game, but certainly not the worst. so, what i need now is help on tommorow, what should i do and what i should not do. Please help, she's a very interesting HB.

Author:  Luca_J [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:46 pm ]
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you obviously wanted to speak to her real bad otherwise you wouldnt have opened, so im guessing you sort of gave that way in attempting to make conversation with her,

i'd get some rapport with her first, then i'd break the rapport, then work on attraction.

dont try to hard to impress this one, she sounds a bit of a tease.

keep it real ;)

Totti 8)

Author:  tipaj [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:46 pm ]
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i need to step it up. maybe touching somehow, although the guy sits beside here(there's no way i can get his spot...he comes like 30 minutes before class and i'm usually late and i don't know when she comes), but i don't want it to be creepy in any way.

Author:  tipaj [ Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:48 pm ]
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you obviously wanted to speak to her real bad otherwise you wouldnt have opened, so im guessing you sort of gave that way in attempting to make conversation with her,

i'd get some rapport with her first, then i'd break the rapport, then work on attraction.

dont try to hard to impress this one, she sounds a bit of a tease.

keep it real ;)

Totti 8)
you said exactly what i was thinking but couldn't express it. she is a tease! how would you recommend rapport with her? and attraction? since she's a tease...i don't realy have any experience with teasers =(

Author:  tipaj [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:36 am ]
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i really need help on this one...c'mon

Author:  Luca_J [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:48 am ]
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Just find summin you both like talkin about, then keep at that, but remember to break rapport otherwise you will end up in the friend zone

Author:  tipaj [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:31 pm ]
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whre can i find out how to break rapport?

Author:  Luca_J [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:56 pm ]
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Its easy man, just say something sexually suggestive, like "i know you want my babies" or anything.

Author:  tipaj [ Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:36 am ]
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Ok, day2, Friday, so this is how it went:
I come in class late, again. So I get full attention of class, teacher is looking and everybody else, except the HB I’m interested in. (She either really doesn’t care who came in, or she was caught up doing something, or she decided to ignore me, but before ignoring she had to know it was me).
Slow in my game as am (I should have said something like: Aren’t you happy to see me, or w/e….), I come and take a sit behind her with an HB8. Right away HB8 tells me that teacher just handed back out tests. So I got up and came up to teacher asking for test (my teacher is cool she doesn’t get mad at me cuz we kinda are from the same background and I did really good in her previous class although I skipped, but I did good, so she had no complains to me), so teacher tell me to sit down:
Teacher: When are you gonna learn Tipaj?
Me: I don’t know. I’m a fast learner, but sometimes I don’t feel like learning. What did you want me to learn?
Teacher: You don’t know? I give you back what you give to me, so you are late 30 minutes, so that’s when you gonna get your test.
Me: Fair enough.
Teacher: Fair isn’t it?
Me: Ye.
I got full attention of whole class, and the teacher did get a little mad at me cuz her cousin died last day and she was the only relative, but I handled that not bad I think.
So, after the conversation with teacher HB8 beside me asks me how did I think I did on a test. I replyed, that I don’t know but I think around 80%. So I get my test back almost right away after convo with teacher, about like 3 minutes, instead of 30 LOL, I got a 92%. HB8: NICE! And you said higher then 60, but lower then 80.
Well I was happy of course, but then we had to do some problems. I solved first question, and came up to teacher to validate if it was right (but before me the girl I’m interested in came up to teacher, so I assumed she had it done too). Turned out that teacher had no answer! Success! I came up to the girl I’m interested in (from now on just GIII=girl i’m interested in), asking if she has an answer for w/e question. Right away I get a hair IOI, so we check the answers and turns out they are different, so we chat for a bit and figure out how to do it. I come back to my seat behind her. A minute later I call her by name to check answers, this time we got the same ones.
I also noticed that she did a nice hairdoo, but did't point it out to her. She never did anything with her it was nicely done, straight and clean, but that time she either got her natural colour back or w/e, it looked nice. For some reason our previous introduction with each other last night made her do that. I might be wrong tho.
Then I give some attention to HB8 beside me (we're siting right behind GIII, so she hears us), askin’ how she’s doing with the question, she didn’t even start it, so I offered help then I spent like an hour of class explaining stuff to her, chatting, tell her what’s easier for me, how do I like to solve those type of problems.

Time for break, GIII get’s up, put’s up a coat and goes out, my assumption was tgat she’s going for a smoke. After she left the room with me talking to HB8 I tell HB8 that I have to go for a smoke now, and wish her good luck on problem. She replies with smoking is bad, I reply with I know and leave.

When I get down there I see her sitting on the bench kind of aside from the whole group, so I come up asking for a light, light it up, sit down, do some comments on my cigarette wich isn’t really mine. Tell her how I smoked for 2 years then quit, and I play around sometimes to relax becuz I love nicotine. I tell her those cigarets are not mine again, and that they are pretty strong so my hands might be shaking, since I didn’t smoke in a while. Then I asked why she smokes so fast, and then I realize it, and reply it for her, interrupting, that oh yeah, it’s winter and it’s cold (last time she smoked fast too and I didn’t talk to her). Well I played in calm and smoked very slow and calmly. A few second after talking about smoking I asked how she’s doing in class, she said she was done questions that were assigned and I replied with a nice. (I’m a nice type of guy, but I do neg, but I was too slow this time to throw anything interesting, I Wasn’t even thinking about a game, that’s my problem….i follow instincts of being a nice guy with girls, and then only after convo is done I analyze it from player point of view). Then she asked me a question (and she looked like she’s getting comfortable, becuz I never saw her talk or ask something, beside teacher, so it’s +1 point for me). She asked how many classes I’m taking:
Her:What about you? You just take chem?
Me: No. I take morning class too. Math.
Her: I see. Well it’s time to go.
And she leaves. I didn’t feel like a looser, I was very confident. But I blamed myself for not throwing away that cancer stick and following her, or throwing something in to stop her. Well I finished it with a bitter taste on my lips.
-1 for me!
I’m back to 0 points.
I came shortly after her. After that I chatted with HB about smoking. Nb called herself a good girl cuz she does not smoke, I replied lame with, that makes me a bad boy. Then I started a convo about Hookas and sheeshas. Then I tried some questions I was assigned and checked three with GIII. Second one we had wrong answers, but third was the same. After that we had teachers lecture, so I didn’t really talk much to people. I had a 2 guys come check stuff with me and chatted with both of them for like 2 mins, that’s bout it. The lecture lasted 5 minutes longer than what it was supposed to. So I leave really fast without talking to anyone (that’s my problem, but I do it all the time so it didn’t look suspicious) , it looked like I was in a rush. I left fast but was walking normally. So I get GIII approach me ( she was walking really fast, she usually does, but not that fast) she give me a very nice smile and a : CYA! Me: seeya! And keeps walking, well me inexperienced, I think of something to stop her actually pretty fast now, but she’s faster…..it was too late.
And again as soon I got +1 I got a -1 right after that. Too bad it’s weekend, or is it good.


Anyways, I need some help on this case….how to stay away from her FZ and build crazy attraction, cuz I think I got comfort slightly. Also I need some good examples of college and day game. It feels really awkward to me trying to get someone outside of nightclub or a party, outside of the place where people come to socialize.

Please help me on this one, cuz I’m actually looking into relationship, not just sex.

Author:  tipaj [ Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:01 am ]
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nothing? comon, i need some help o that one, mates.

Author:  Mr. Fickle [ Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:57 am ]
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summarize what you've got into specific questions and I can help

Author:  kasabi [ Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:03 am ]
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Are you in college or high school?

Drop the act. You know it, I know it, and I'd think that your entire school knows it. What you think of "cool" is your assessment of yourself. However, you're not trying to impress yourself are you?

In terms of getting this girl, "getting the right answers" or "being late to class", etc . . . are in my mind NON-Factors. They don't help you do anything but draw attention to yourself and I'm not sure if it's the type of attention that you want. Stop being the class clown. Think of all the class clowns that you know in school and ask yourself, "Do they get laid?"

If you want this girl to be your girlfriend, focus on efficiency. Don't say a million things and hope that 1 of those million things that come out of your mouth will hopefully turn this girl on. One possible way:

1. Compliments are good. Do it. Open with it. "Hey, those _____ are looking great.
2. Compliments are also bad. One is enough. She wants more, make her work for it.
3. Class, work, cigarettes, tests, your accent = ALL boring, non sexual topics. Don't EVER talk to her about these things.
4. If she brings up boring, non-sexual topics, bridge those topics into sexual and exciting topics. So she goes, "Cigarettes are blah blah." And you go something like, "Oh I agree. You ever notice? The old James Bonds smokes all the time and the new Bond is a health nut?" She goes "blah blah blah" and you go, "Oh, did you see the 007 _______ movie where they have sex in ______. It's crazy. The guy is always having sex in the craziest places? What do you think would be the coolest place in the World to make love?" (I duuno . . I just made this up but this is the idea. Frame the conversations AWAY from mundane crap)
4. Calibrate. . . If she buys into your "sexual frame" (they all do), then you continue to escalate. This is when kino is effective. You can touch her all you want when you meet, say hi or whatever but when the conversation topics are sexual, that same touch can be much, much more effective.
5. Then the conversation gets framed back to real life. She goes something like, "The 007 where they go to Cuba. Oh my God that was cool." Then you go, "That reminds me. That bar in _____ makes the greatest freakin' mojitos. How about Thursday night?" If she's in, she's in . . . but if she goes, "Oh Thursday night is blah blah blah." Then you go, "Cool, maybe next time. I'm definitely in the mood for those mojitos so I'm going to check it out with a few friends."

You repeat 1 through 5 until you get her at a fun event. Then you isolate her at the fun event and kiss close her.

Thousands of different ways to do this but obviously, I don't know them all and I definitely can't write 1,000 different things. However, I'm quite sure many members have done something like the above (either consciously or unconsciously) over, over, and over again with lots of success. Good luck.

Author:  tipaj [ Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:32 pm ]
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it's neither college, neither school. It's school for 18+ adults.
more specific questions:
1)How to stay away from her FZ?
2)Should i completely ignore her in class, but after class talk? O should i try to stay connected and then take it outside from class?
3)How fast should i take it? I have the whole week ahead of me, i'd rather play it safe, but get it? Or will it be too long and she'll think of me as a friend?

note: although i'm experinced with different drinks, i can't take her out on party or bar.....i'm 18... drinking age here is 19

Author:  tipaj [ Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:42 pm ]
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Drop the act. You know it, I know it, and I'd think that your entire school knows it. What you think of "cool" is your assessment of yourself. However, you're not trying to impress yourself are you?
I think you got it wrong. I'm late in class just because, it's because it takes us usualy 20 minutes to warm up, because other people are late. I'm not acting at all like a clown, i'm not trying to impress myself, nor people around me. That's just how i am. From my writing you probably interpreted me wrong, and i bet it was the part when i was late and i mentioned about the class looking....well, mate, it works just the same as someone using a camera in club: Flash! Everybody is looking. I didn't mean it, i just come late to school, otherwise i'm very punctual. Interacting with a teacher? I always do that with her, even last year, she chats to students in the middle of the class, she's like that.

As for other advices, kasabi, thanks. That's what i call constructive.

Author:  tipaj [ Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:59 pm ]
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anyone else can comment?

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