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Author:  Rich08 [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:26 am ]
Post subject:  New to Pick up - A Few Questions
Hey everyone, im new to this whole pick up game, and basically have a few questions to ask just to clarify things:


1) Mystery says "What a women says, and how they respond, are two entirely different things" .. What does he actually mean by this, can someone please give me an example, just so im sure. Cheers.

2) I hear the term Indicator of interest being used alot. What are these exactly?

3) Replication value?? What is this exactly, and how does a person increase it?

Sorry, if these are really basic questions, but i just want to be sure im getting it all right.

Thanks. 8)
Author:  Bestete [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:02 pm ]
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Hi dude, the first thing you should do is reading "The Game" by Neil Strauss and The Mystery Method, those two books r really good to get you into the community. About your question:

1) He wants to say that women tend to say one thing while they feel something different. For example, if u ask a woman what does she like in a man, shell probably tell you that she likes to be treaten good, get gifts, etc, but the reality is that women r often atracted by guys who tease them and dont treat them right. Its not the best example you can get, but i think you'll get the idea

2) An IOI is something the girl does to show interest in you. They include touching her hair, leaning towards you, touching you, giggling a lot (specially about something that its not funny), etc

3) Never heard about it, maybe someone else can tell you about it


You should read t FAQ for newbies and t stickys that r around t forum
Author:  xfman [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New to Pick up - A Few Questions
Quote:
Hey everyone, im new to this whole pick up game, and basically have a few questions to ask just to clarify things:


1) Mystery says "What a women says, and how they respond, are two entirely different things" .. What does he actually mean by this, can someone please give me an example, just so im sure. Cheers.

2) I hear the term Indicator of interest being used alot. What are these exactly?

3) Replication value?? What is this exactly, and how does a person increase it?

Sorry, if these are really basic questions, but i just want to be sure im getting it all right.

Thanks. 8)
Hi Rich !!

Welcome to the community !!

First of all as Bestete told you read the Mystery Method. (No need to read The Game, talking about learning. The Game is only a story of a well known PUA called Style (Neil Strauss))

Answering your questions:
Quote:
1) Mystery says "What a women says, and how they respond, are two entirely different things" .. What does he actually mean by this, can someone please give me an example, just so im sure. Cheers.
When you start going out and you start meeting a lot of women you will realize that they are emotional, and you will understand that many times she says "No" but she is meaning "Yes".

You need to develop a six sense so you can understand and read women, you have to understand their body language and expressions. This way you will know when they want something, even if they say "I don't want to".

In a Nutshell:

When a women talks focus on her body language and expressions not only in the words, because the brain talks through words but the subconscious and the emotions talk through body language.

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2) I hear the term Indicator of interest being used alot. What are these exactly?
IOI (Indicator of Interest): An action or statement made by a women showing that she is interested in knowing more about you.

There is a long list of IOI (Use the search function and you might find something like "The complete list of Indicators of Interest") this list includes:

*Touching you
*Touching her hair
*Smiling
*Laughing a lot
*Hips and feet pointing to you
*Asking your name
*Asking questions
*When you hold her hand if you squeeze and she squeezes back

And more... this signs show that she is into you, and after three of them she might be ready for a kiss (according to Mystery)

*Note: These signs depend on the situation and you should understand that sometimes they aren't IOI they are just normal actions made in a normal interaction.


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3) Replication value?? What is this exactly, and how does a person increase it?
Replication value is how good or bad partner you seem to be.

Mystery explains this saying that this is part of women instinct, their are looking for a potential mate, a partner than can full fill her sex needs and can reproduce.

How do you increase your Replication value ?

Having women around you, looking sexy, going to the gym, etc...

In a nutshell:

If you look that you get laid and you develop trust then you have a good replication value, if you are around women and you look confident then you have good replication value.

Replication value is a way women rate how good provider a men can be in the future.

There you go Rich !!

Here is my website that might help you:

www.thepualife.com

check the outer game section for an explanation of the M3 Model (Mystery's model) and check the blog section too.


SUCCESS,


FOR YOU,


XFMAN
Author:  NonStopReaper [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:50 pm ]
Post subject: 
xfman summed it up for you.

Mystery says "What a women says, and how they respond, are two entirely different things"

good book to get is the The Definitive Book of Body Language by barbara Please,Allen please. This book will give you insight to it all. Its a great book that will help you in life and also your pick-up. Some IoIs are non-verbal. Most men dont pick up on hints by Body-language. Read that book.
Author:  Rich08 [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:10 pm ]
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Thanks for the responses 8)

So a guy seeks replication value over suvival value when looking for a potential mate?

What diffrentiates between a women with a high replication value, and a women with a low replication value?

Guys are more interested in how a female looks, but evolutionary speaking, what would be wrong with mating with a lesser attractive female over the hot babe, when both have the ability to produce healthy offspring?

I know im more attracted to the hot babe, but I want to know why in terms of evolution.

Thanks again
Author:  xfman [ Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:57 pm ]
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Well then that comes to our days we prefer the hot chick so we can feel more alpha and better than others (men love competition).

In the other hand you can find a lot of experiments that shows that we (MEN) DO consider replication value as an important characteristic...

The experiment was showing pictures of women with different attributes, including small, big waist, small, big, breast and butt... the results were:

"Most men found sexier women with a nice curve ) . ( in the stomach line , and a medium, big waist." The conclusion bashed all the assumptions that say that men like butts and breast. In conclusion this experiment showed that we do care about breast and butt but most important we find the replication value in the waist and stomach that is the place where our baby will be for 9 months, and of course checking that they have a nice rack to feed our baby.
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