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Author:  BigMacKinnon [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:31 am ]
Post subject:  Mixed Messages
Hey all, I've met this girl and she's great. We've watched a few movies together and one night she slept over at my place, Nothing happened though. Today I asked her out for dinner. Her reply was

"'I'm sure dinner will be great, I'm just worried about "the reason" for the dinner you know?" Meaning romantic reason.

I really like her but have no clue what to do. We live in an isolated northern community in Canada, major lack of options. Any thoughts??
Author:  Solomon II [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:56 pm ]
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She's testing you, and you've gotten yourself into a bit of a spot here. The fact of the matter is, she's stayed over at your place already and nothing happened... she wanted sex, and you didn't pull the trigger. So now, you're asking her out again and she's thrown this at you to make you defensive. She is expecting you to assume she means sex, and deny that you want to take her out so you can sleep with her... and if you do, it gives her the perfect reason to stop talking to you. Trust me - she is not worried about the "romantic" aspect of going to dinner because she's already stayed at your place with you. She thinks you're a pussy because you didn't do anything about it.

Stick with the shit test formula - agree with the negative comment, exaggerate upon it, then move on without seeking a reaction. In this case you'll just be like, oh I know, me too... I was gonna get a dozen roses and have some dude play a violin for us but I was worried about "the reason" for that stuff, you know? Seriously though, I'm free on (whatever days).
Author:  Eros-SIS [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:18 pm ]
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I say forget about her and move on to the next one.

Reason being you kinda already blew it.

She slept over at your place and you should of had sex with her but didnt.

And now you're taking her to dinner...

Why are you taking her to dinner when the objective is to get laid.

You supposedly already know her well enough for her to feel comfortable staying over.

Go out for drinks then back to yours.

Going out for dinners and movie dates is just prologing the agony, wasting time and costing you money (i hope you aren't paying for her).

I have a feeling she's already put you in the friend zone by being wary of your objectives and making it apparent to you.
Author:  Atlas1 [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:53 pm ]
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I disagree with both theses guys. I've had girls stay over at my place for reasons other than sex...convenience! It was late and they didnt wanna go home :P. Yes I did freeze out and every thing against LMR in the book...it just happens some times...especially if you know the girl as friends and it isn't just a random pick up (which seems to be the case with you).

I don't think she was staying over for sex. I also don't think you blew it. That DEFINITELY was a shit test though. Solomon's response is the correct one. Just C&F your way out of that question and shrug it off. Proceed pitching her game...if you are in a small shit town you may be the only PUA in training there =)
Author:  BigMacKinnon [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:02 pm ]
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All right,
I have her coming over to my place for a movie this weekend. Any thoughts on my next move from here?
Author:  Eminem [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:10 pm ]
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cuz i want to bang you, duh

haha


umm. make a joke like that. because you're cute and fun.

haha. i dont know the circumstances by which u got her in bed, but if it was not awkward and she was more than willing and u werent just being her friend (friend comfort can be shattered when u try to involve ur dick with her vagina..)

but if she was just open to it then maybe shes easy and u lost her interest by not moving fast enough.

or maybe u just lost her interest


a) she thinks your a friend and is comfortable with u but is worried you want more now

b) shes easy and u made things too complicatedand now shes loosing interest or thinks you want a "relationship"

c) she is the dating type and you just moved to slow or awkwardly

d) you've done nothing wrong and you will sleep with her soon enough and are overthinking.

asking you the reason is putting you on the spot, maybe its like a test even if she doesnt totally mean it as one

sometimes when u are awkward with a girl u take the fun, naturalness, spontaniaty, and her control away

so now she has lost her escalated sexual interest and is kind of waiting for u to make a sexual move, and assumes it will be awkward

now she feels like ur predating her pussy even if u dont mean to and even if shes still comfortable with you
Author:  Eminem [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:13 pm ]
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wait u have her coming over for a movie?

if that was HER IDEA

that=coming over for free sex bro!

if it was ur idea... thats murkier but if it was on a list of more involved and expensive ideas and was the only one she agreed to could still=sex

i say "hey come over im tired and i want to lay down"

lol i say that to girls sometimes seriously

haha
they come over, take their panties off and we get freaky hahaha
Author:  BigMacKinnon [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:39 pm ]
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Alright, Her idea for the movie.
Author:  Eminem [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:44 pm ]
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the way i see it is this is her effort (maybe last) to get you to make a move.

now im not a pro at escalating physical shit. but sometimes depending on the girl it should not or does not have to start witha kiss as far as the order relative to breats or ass touching lol...

u get the idea. sometimes u dont even need to make ur first kiss on the lips bro.

w/e just my ideas


i could be wrong, maybe shes just compromising with coming to see a movie "as a friedn" so u dont spend money cuz she just wants to be ur friend

but i think its one or the other

i dont think theres a grey area.

i think either she wants u to make a move (free sex) or she wants to just be your friend and doesnt want u to spend money on her cuz she thinks u want to be more than friends and doesnt want to use or abuse u for ur money

either way sounds like a nice girl lol
Author:  NotSoFamous [ Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:49 am ]
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I disagree with both theses guys. I've had girls stay over at my place for reasons other than sex...convenience! It was late and they didnt wanna go home :P. Yes I did freeze out and every thing against LMR in the book...it just happens some times...especially if you know the girl as friends and it isn't just a random pick up (which seems to be the case with you).

I don't think she was staying over for sex. I also don't think you blew it. That DEFINITELY was a shit test though. Solomon's response is the correct one. Just C&F your way out of that question and shrug it off. Proceed pitching her game...if you are in a small shit town you may be the only PUA in training there =)
Wow Dude, i never had a girl sleep over my house and not have sex with her, if a girl stays at your house for ANY REASON its to get laid, by you, your friend, your dad, your DOG, shes waiting to get her scream on especially if she shaved her legs. Someone please him.

Yea dude to me you blew it you could of used the lames thing like " its hotter in my bed if you wanna join" if she slept on your couch ($100 dollars says she would of came), but if she slept on your bed already then WOW go back to playing you World of Warcraft cuz if you dont read that sign i dont know what you can read.

she still wanted to get laided thou, dinner and movie at your house, kino her and maybe if your not an idiot you get laided
Author:  Eminem [ Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:52 am ]
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nah man thats sexist

1/2 times girls stay at my place its for conveniance. they trust me. sometimes i sleep next to them so they feel comfortable with my roommates.
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