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Sounds to me like she was having a horny night...you may be coming across as needy. Stop calling her--back off. This will give you a chance to decide...she may then come to you. If she doesn't initiate things again..but stopping turning over the ball! No more:

"Sorry i missed you...call me back!"

Simple change to: "I'll call you back later"...maybe through a cocky joke in there: "I'll call you back at 6PM...I just *KNOW* you'll be waiting by the phone for me...maybe ill make it 6:05 just to let you anticipate me for a bit longer"

But the cooling off period will give you the chance to make your decision as well as give you the chance to shift your frame on her and be more confident.

Girls always seem to have "phone troubles" or were "really busy" or "moved to Canada" when they get buyer's remorse. If a girl is really really into you, she will call, from a pay phone in a bad part of town at 3AM, everyone who she thinks may know you to get in touch with you.

She was having "that time of the month". It's awful that that phrase has been twisted so that it refers to a period of time when a girl is a complete bitch, cause I'd rather think of it as that magical time of month when a girl is ovulating and basically in heat. She kept saying, "I'm not easy" as a way of making herself feel ok with what she was doing, cause you probably didn't make her feel completely safe and comfortable with what she was doing, but she was horny and wanted to get it on enough that she did it anyways.

Now don't get defensive about what I said, just realise that if she was 100% completely comfortable, then she wouldn't have had to tell herself that, cause she would already feel it enough. She would have felt respected enough and known that you guys were both adults just having a good time and she wouldn't have felt that she had to try and impress upon you the fact that she isn't a slut, cause she would feel assured that you didn't think that of her.

Unfortunately now that she's not having that time of the month, you are in a bit of a tough spot, cause she doesn't still feel it and you haven't made her feel safe and secure enough that she is still interested in pursuing things further without being horny as hell. Solution: get her turned on. Easier said than done, but you've pretty much lost all of the attraction you had built up and you are actually in a deficit now.

Author:	robinzon [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:11 am ]
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Hi all, new to the forum.. though read the books.. inately new most of the techniques though couple of years back due to insane work schedule unlearned a bit it seems.. at any rate here is an interesting scenario I have been through recently... I know a girl at work, rel. quickly connected with her, email here SMS there... within a week or two finally got together at a bar, quick kino from her... within 1.5-2 hours I am pretty much playing with her nipples at the table, kissing etc... got some food at a diff place with my hand between her legs.... though number of times she mentioned she is not "easy"... though responding well.. I decided whatnot tuned it down, got her a cab went home... after that called her in a couple of days, though her phone had issues... after that seems she cooled off though she never called me herself unless I left her a voicemail to call me back or SMS her... I am not 100 convinced I am that interested in closing the deal (not sure of my own level of attraction to her), yet I always like closure (which is one problem that impedes success)... curious as how you gurus would approach this... Thanks

Author:	Gander [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:19 am ]
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I wouldn't push yourself to do anything you don't want to do. I would take a look at why it is you don't want to. It may be because the challenge is gone. The 'string' so to speak is laying at your feet. If you're that torn weigh what reasons you want to and don't want to. Hope it's some useful advice.

Author:	Atlas1 [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:27 am ]
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Sounds to me like she was having a horny night...you may be coming across as needy. Stop calling her--back off. This will give you a chance to decide...she may then come to you. If she doesn't initiate things again..but stopping turning over the ball! No more: "Sorry i missed you...call me back!" Simple change to: "I'll call you back later"...maybe through a cocky joke in there: "I'll call you back at 6PM...I just KNOW you'll be waiting by the phone for me...maybe ill make it 6:05 just to let you anticipate me for a bit longer" But the cooling off period will give you the chance to make your decision as well as give you the chance to shift your frame on her and be more confident.

Author:	aldaris [ Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:14 am ]
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im new at dis but from wat it seems... i think she thinks ur just callin her to get some... lol... dats why she aint pickin up or respondin as well as dat night... like to me i think u shud just invite her to a non sexual place like not a bar or a club but to da movies or dinner.... n try to do it all over... im new at dis... but yeah dont keep on callin her n textin her n watnot dat seems desperate

Author:	robinzon [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:27 pm ]
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Quote: Sounds to me like she was having a horny night...you may be coming across as needy. Stop calling her--back off. This will give you a chance to decide...she may then come to you. If she doesn't initiate things again..but stopping turning over the ball! No more: "Sorry i missed you...call me back!" Simple change to: "I'll call you back later"...maybe through a cocky joke in there: "I'll call you back at 6PM...I just KNOW you'll be waiting by the phone for me...maybe ill make it 6:05 just to let you anticipate me for a bit longer" But the cooling off period will give you the chance to make your decision as well as give you the chance to shift your frame on her and be more confident. I think you got it a bit wrong... I am not new to the game per se and neither am I needy... I SMSed her once and she was actually sorry her phone was not working... I used several regular cocky techniques and she is back in the process... what I am interested in is closing the deal quickly as I am not interested in a GF... the point being getting through to this specific girl who keeps saying "I am not easy.." yet clearly shows sexual interest as you saw I was playing with her nipples the first time we went out and the kino was coming from her more then from me I was just naturally following her lead.... I guess next time I will disarm her by "no contact" to see what happens... just curious what other techniques you might use to progress this...

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Author:	Roads [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:43 pm ]
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Girls always seem to have "phone troubles" or were "really busy" or "moved to Canada" when they get buyer's remorse. If a girl is really really into you, she will call, from a pay phone in a bad part of town at 3AM, everyone who she thinks may know you to get in touch with you.

Author:	Rye Lee [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:37 am ]
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She was having "that time of the month". It's awful that that phrase has been twisted so that it refers to a period of time when a girl is a complete bitch, cause I'd rather think of it as that magical time of month when a girl is ovulating and basically in heat. She kept saying, "I'm not easy" as a way of making herself feel ok with what she was doing, cause you probably didn't make her feel completely safe and comfortable with what she was doing, but she was horny and wanted to get it on enough that she did it anyways. Now don't get defensive about what I said, just realise that if she was 100% completely comfortable, then she wouldn't have had to tell herself that, cause she would already feel it enough. She would have felt respected enough and known that you guys were both adults just having a good time and she wouldn't have felt that she had to try and impress upon you the fact that she isn't a slut, cause she would feel assured that you didn't think that of her. Unfortunately now that she's not having that time of the month, you are in a bit of a tough spot, cause she doesn't still feel it and you haven't made her feel safe and secure enough that she is still interested in pursuing things further without being horny as hell. Solution: get her turned on. Easier said than done, but you've pretty much lost all of the attraction you had built up and you are actually in a deficit now.

Author:	robinzon [ Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:20 am ]
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Quote: Girls always seem to have "phone troubles" or were "really busy" or "moved to Canada" when they get buyer's remorse. If a girl is really really into you, she will call, from a pay phone in a bad part of town at 3AM, everyone who she thinks may know you to get in touch with you. Dude, if girls were that into all of us, we would not need to be on this forum in the first place

Author:	robinzon [ Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:25 am ]
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Quote: She was having "that time of the month". It's awful that that phrase has been twisted so that it refers to a period of time when a girl is a complete bitch, cause I'd rather think of it as that magical time of month when a girl is ovulating and basically in heat. She kept saying, "I'm not easy" as a way of making herself feel ok with what she was doing, cause you probably didn't make her feel completely safe and comfortable with what she was doing, but she was horny and wanted to get it on enough that she did it anyways. Now don't get defensive about what I said, just realise that if she was 100% completely comfortable, then she wouldn't have had to tell herself that, cause she would already feel it enough. She would have felt respected enough and known that you guys were both adults just having a good time and she wouldn't have felt that she had to try and impress upon you the fact that she isn't a slut, cause she would feel assured that you didn't think that of her. Unfortunately now that she's not having that time of the month, you are in a bit of a tough spot, cause she doesn't still feel it and you haven't made her feel safe and secure enough that she is still interested in pursuing things further without being horny as hell. Solution: get her turned on. Easier said than done, but you've pretty much lost all of the attraction you had built up and you are actually in a deficit now. I am not quite following you there... however I was not clear.. she mentioned that "she is not easy" at a different time afterwards... besdies she initially gave me kino when we first met, it was not all me trying to get to her to begin with.. I am not sure as to which defecit you are referring to my attraction to her or her to me?!?! you are right she did not feel safe.... then again I did not think that was part of the game.... my view on this that attraction was more important, I always got very fast to those girls that I was a cocky bastard to... this was not exception sadly she got burned by an asshole in the past... hmm... as I said I am not 100% in agreement with you as far as that time of the month... she is not a girl that necessarily calls but immediately calls if I SMS her..ie "call me after 6.." works like a charm... peace

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