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would a girl get pissed if u didn't push her for sex??
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Author:  Sheer Con [ Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:28 pm ]
Post subject:  would a girl get pissed if u didn't push her for sex??
so i only had 3 days to see this girl before I went back to uni..I didn't push for sex at all, just kissed her and stuff. I thought she wouldn't want sex because i was just going to leave her in a couple days and before I went home, I wasn't even that sure she was into me. also, I was a little nervous cause I've still got my v-card..and there was no place to go except for the back seat of a car and I wasn't quite sure how to initiate that.. anywho so I've been thinking maybe she wanted me to escalate further but I just didn't. If so, then does she think I'm a pussy? will she lose attraction for me? I don't see her again for like 2 months and I'm trying to get over some pretty bad one-itis..
so is it possible that girls will get pissed when u don't escalate as far as u want them to?
Author:  Musterion [ Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:54 pm ]
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I think so. My last GF (like 2 or 3 years ago, in other words pre-game) dumped me after about a month for similar reasons, she never said that but I knew/know that was why. Again the same reason as you, still had (and have) my v-card and didn't know how to go about it. A mate of mine also said that he had been chatting with her while we were together and she had told him she wanted me to be more adventurous with her.
So, I think some girls will get pissed if you don't escalate enough and push the boundries, but not all girls are like that remember, some are the complete opposite.
Author:  jurupa [ Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:34 pm ]
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I say it depends on the girl. Some girls want it within a month or less others are more relax when it comes to sex. But either way I would not push for sex, but more escalate to it.
Author:  Sheer Con [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:38 am ]
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shit i was afraid of that... I just didn't think she'd want to do it outside or in a car for our first time. plus i was only in town for 2 days. I thought I was being considerate and now I look like a pussy. I'm just going to DHV hard and try not to call her for a month or so..
Author:  anutharound [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:48 am ]
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the way I see it the whole point of a relationship is for two people to grow together much more than they could on their own. Notice the majority of great men in history had a great woman at their side. Think about it like this when a girl sees that you aren't man enough to take what you both obviously want then she sees you stagnating as a man. This is saddening to her. She could see it that since you barely push your own boundries then how the hell are you going to help her grow as a woman?

I know its a bitch sittin there wondering whether to escalate or not, but from now on if you are unsure then escalate. The worse that could happen is she could say stop. The best thing she could say is "wow, you're so big I love you inside me"

You may want to say, but its not that easy, I don't know what I'm doing. Honestly no one knows what they are doing until they try. Stop making excuses and go for it or you deserve girls to leave you.
Author:  Sheer Con [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:22 pm ]
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I understand that escalation is very important but doesn't the situation count for anything?
Author:  frankj [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:29 pm ]
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I'm pretty new to the game but you're making me feel like a seasoned pro. I'm also quite drunk :D :D
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I thought she wouldn't want sex because i was just going to leave her in a couple days and before I went home, I wasn't even that sure she was into me
What she thinks is not important. Personally, I have enough time grappling with my own thoughts, and PU has taught me to only give a fuck about what *I* think about a girl - it's extraodinarily liberating.
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also, I was a little nervous cause I've still got my v-card..
I lost my V at 20 (I'm 26 now), and had 2 long term relationships as an AFC. So I've had plenty of sex but only with 3 different women. The third was who I lost my V to. A drunk nympho that practically raped me - so I was lucky :wink: Perhaps controversial on a PU forum, but consider getting a hooker. If you've got 92 posts on a PU forum and you're still a V, this's something you need to get over. I've been there and I wish I'd got a hooker on my 18th b'day. Would have saved me 2 years of angst being a college virgin (I wanna cry just thinking about it :?).
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and there was no place to go except for the back seat of a car and I wasn't quite sure how to initiate that
How's: "let's go sit in the back" - take her hand, and go make out in the back.
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anywho so I've been thinking maybe she wanted me to escalate further
Women don't think the same way as guys. If she's in a car with you somewhere quiet, she's open to it. Whether she does or not depends on you.

From here, I'd say you've almost certainly blown it. You'd do well to forget about her...
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I understand that escalation is very important but doesn't the situation count for anything?
Escalation is EVERYTHING. Right from when you first meet a girl. What sitation are you talking about? About you leaving? Again, fuck the situation, either she'll fuck you or she won't, and there's only one way to find out.
Author:  Sheer Con [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:50 pm ]
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I see ur point and yes i should have said fuck the situation but I doubt that i've completely fucked things up. ive known this girl for 2 years and got out of LJBF. I've built a huge amount of comfort (which is why im so pissed i couldn't move into seduction) I go home in two months and when I see her im going to escalate like crazy. back seat of a car, a bush, middle of the road. fuck it
Author:  anutharound [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:55 pm ]
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sure situation can matter, but the majority of them do not.

I disagree with the above poster that its totally over. I don't understand many of the community views saying if a girl is being bad then cut her off. Wouldn't that assume that she never liked you in the first place, so if that is true then why would a girl that didn't like you kiss you???? She liked you and its my belief that when you see her again you will have another chance. I fail to understand why the community sees women as so unforgiving and ruthless. The ones I know are extremely loving and nurturing and give me all kinds of chances cuz I fuck up alot lol. If I was in your situation I wouldn't be asking a forum full of dudes who really don't know everything about the specific details of the situation and the girl, I would ask the girl. In my experience the greatest allies in improving my game is not the community, but women. They are not totally illogical emotional creatures as many guys would like to present.

Ask her: "how would you feel if there was a guy who you really liked and he liked you back if he never let himself do anything more than kiss you, would that be enough, or would you want more?"
Author:  hade [ Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:08 pm ]
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If she liked you then she'd be wondering why you didn't go for sex yeah. She may have been pissed, but her buying temp will have dropped soon after.
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