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Author:  Grouche [ Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Can someone please explain these 2 things for me?

1.
PUAs tells you not to bomb girls with questions...but how about when you approach, i am sure no good at approaching but still i feel no fear of doing it cause im bad, but i mean... you get over there say hi then you gotta ask some kind of question or should you say hi and just sit there next to her and stare at her and make her work for your attention :S (i think she would think your some kind of tardcake when you do that tbh)

2.
Some PUAs say you should flirt (also tell me: should you start flirting at the approach?) other PUAs says you should just act up like a normal guy thats not searching for a relationship when you approach.

3.
Just making up a failed kino:
If you approach a random girl in a cloth store and like put your hand on her shoulder and stroke it down her arm while asking if she could help you out picking some clothes for your friend since its her birthday or something, but while stroking your hand down she pulls it of her arm and looks at you creating this so called "awkward silence" or something like that.
(i know you guys are gonna tell me that i think about it to much, but i mean it will happen eventually and its gonna create one of those so called "brain farts" and it cant be avoided exept if you know what to do when she does)

Author:  Duke23 [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:31 am ]
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well think if your an attractive girl working in a clothing department in a mall in my oppionion their probably hired guns but

its all worth the rejection its not about her (getting her approval) ,its about

do you have what it takes inside of you to take this as far as its needed

think of it in from her pov (point of view)

if im a hb 9 at a store and some guy just comes up and strokes me im gonna think he's out to start something sexual

but then again you make it sound like you just lightly rubbed against her

but still id make her smile before i start any kino escalation

if you were to go out in public with a totally embarassing shirt on
people would be staring and looking at you but then you would just go fuck it im here to have fun just go out and try this do stuff that puts you out on the lim

jump into dangerous territory just try it

Author:  Slipfinger [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:07 am ]
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So I was working yesterday, and 2 hbs8s walk up to me and wanted to order something :P ((twins they were fucking awesome) Hahahah they had these red dots on their cheeks thinking it was super cool so as they gave me their order, I stuck around joking a bit with them, just regular chit chat..no routines...then I had the perfect opporunity to give them a nice neg...:))) since they did not know what the red dots where lol..I just had to tell em

Me: Guys..know what those red dots your wearing are right?


Twins: No?

Me: Hey cant see anything wrong with you but ohh welll..and I walk away..

twins: So what are they?

Me: Well...*laugh* cant tell you*smile*

Twins: Smile awww come on!

Me: Well if you girls are nice and finsh your meals ill tell you soon, gotta go for now.

you dont want to be the one disturbing their feeding time!
So like 10 mins later I step up to them..

Twins: so what is it?!

me: *laughing* shit sorry forgot about the two of you, okay how was your food?

twins: Smiling...It was great!

me: Haha glad you enjoyed it..so what do you guys do for fun?

Note that I am asking a question since there is no idea to start with routines here quite yet..I just go easy.

twins: Well we love dancing.

here's my sign...they just told me their party girls..now I go in, and since their red dots were my cat string, it worked fine.

me: No way! I love dancing..*smile*

twins: *smile* maybe we could go out dancing together!

they said that in a joking way..but hah illl turn that!

me: Awwwww...your asking me out on a date..how cute..awww..well I dont know if I have the time..

Twins: so what are these red dots?!

me: Ill tell you when we go out dancing this saturday *smile*

twins: umm whats your phone number?

Me: Shiit I really cant remember my number have to look it up, give me a sec.

And now I take my cell out and give it to her.

me: her call your phone from it, waaay easier!

HB7T1: hahaha sure!

and she does...So phone closed em :D


what I am showing here tha there is no need for questions just hold a small convo with em about nothing the questions and routines I save for the date.


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Author:  Paetar [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:46 am ]
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Nice. Pretty way to create interest.

Author:  Paetar [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:07 am ]
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GROUCHE: From my point of view, flirting is good way to show attraction in sexual way. It very much depends on your style of pick-up, I'd say flirt, it is easier to avoid LJBF. On the other hand, it may make you look too aggressive and/or needy if used too early. After a couple of minutes start flirting, depends on situation and how you rate it.

Questions: use them to start conversation definitely. Even the dumbest question is better than awkward silence. To find out something about girl, use examples of your interests. Make statements and wait for her responding:

YOU:"So, what do you do for fun? I play guitar."
SHE: bla-bla-bla
YOU: That's cool, we should try it sometimes together. I personally never tried it before, so you could show me how to do it..." and continue here

KINO: It is rather intimate thing, so try to avoid heavy kino before attraction is created. (That's why some women will smile when you accidentally touch them in passway, and some will ignore you, or create this awkward silence.)

Author:  Smile4now [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:07 am ]
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m8 lets talk bou this when we meet today ^^
(grouch is my no good wing )

Author:  Smile4now [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:07 am ]
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nd btw thats things and ure totaly ok as wing :) :wink:

Author:  Smile4now [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:08 am ]
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3 things, im sorry 4 spamming up the thread

Author:  Grouche [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:56 am ]
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thnx for all the advices guys 8) !

and smile4fun i aint no wing, do i look like i have feathers?

Author:  Grouche [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:07 am ]
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btw slipfinger, now when i think about it... lets say your gonna do an approach in the middle of the street, you pretty much have to ask tons of questions to the one your approaching to keep the chat going.

I mean, if a girl have some wierd shit on them like lets say some retarded hot girl attached a tail to her back, then you would have something to comment. But if its a hb8 for example walking down the street looking completely normal, you will probably have a hard time starting a conversation without asking tons of questions.

Author:  Slipfinger [ Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:43 pm ]
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@Grouche:

To be totally honest..I dont like gaming on the streets, When I do walk around its to get somewhere...not to game..hehe I am not much of a street gamer unless I find a girl totally awesome..and for me to find someone like that I need to talk to them..fuck I dont rates from looks..I rate them from the personality ofcourse what they look like is important, I mean if a SHB11 is a total..air head after talking to her for awhile..she instantly makes herself unattractive..and Imo girls view us the same way.

Anyway..what about the tons of questions..sure you have to ask questions but where do you draw the line? I mean these things can easily be seen as a interview..is that what you want?

ofcourse I do have afew pointers in street gaming even if they are bad and not what id like them to be!

-ask for directions

E.G

You: Hi there, I am looking *Enter cool spot here*

Her: bla bla bla

You: Ahh thanks I am late for *bullshit*

her: Bla bla


The secret to this is to say something intressting, intressting enough for her to ask you what your going to do there.

I dont have much on street gaming, and the little I have is worthless!

On a more personal note, I disslike street gaming because its way to devided, and anything can go wrong, the one you approach could be headed for work, meeting yeah..anything really..If you come up with something on street gaming hook a bro up mate.

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Author:  Smile4now [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:14 am ]
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Slipfinger, I almost only streetsarge but I preform alot better when night sarging. The charm with daysarging is that you get a real challenge but if you sucseed insta dates are alot easier.

Try McDonalds^^
Guess what she's eating.

Pua: Is that *some greasy badtasting shit*

Target: Yeah,,

Pua: ok, you don't look like a *some greasy badtasting shit* person

Target: what do I look to like then?

Pua:Hmmm, Happymeal?

Target: *answer*

Pua: nah not really but... (perform the cube or something likewise)

Pua: OK I couldn't really ell what ypu like to eat but I know that you are-
*palmreading technique result*



This should get you on the right track^^

Author:  Grouche [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:55 am ]
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it all sounds very logical thnx for the help.(btw Slipfinger pls tell me some cool advices where to searg and perhaps how to do start it)

Now i wonder, any advices how to avoid the brain farts?

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