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Author:  metalmonkeys [ Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:50 pm ]
Post subject:  How much attention do hot guys get?
This is a question only to be answered by guys that would consider themselves are really hot or handsome (I.E the top 2%, if you like)

Hollywood shows films where the guys get alot of girls staring at them etc, but in real life does this actually happen?...i mean, how much attention can a very handsome get from women, just walking round a busy shopping center for example...is it really obvious?

This is just for insight really ;)
Author:  madals [ Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:58 pm ]
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Top 2% is a little extreem, i am not that good :P But from life exprience i am generally put at the 8-9 mark (if guys had a HB scale).
I find getting IOIs a lot easier, the whole if i look at a girl i will nearly always get a smile and prolonged EC. As for girls looking at me, i dont really notice, i do get them, so does everyone tho.
The big difference is really hot guys dont get girls opening them as much as really hot girls get guys opening them. This is all because of social programming. They know guys should open girls, so they dont open.

Hope that helps
Author:  Stygian [ Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:31 pm ]
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I don't get opened as much as i would like but I typically I will get IOIs from girls a lot, this can be in a bar, in my social circle or even walking down the street. It's not like a Hollywood movie at all.
Author:  Okiokdan [ Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:15 pm ]
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Agreed with Stygian and Madals. The thing I particularly like is that I don't need to do shit for the girls friends to "like" me. They're all jealous at the girl that I am talking or w/e with at that time, and that's some huge advantage in getting success with that specific girl.
Author:  Brenoporra [ Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:16 pm ]
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must be boring with all that ease! hahah
Author:  Mr. Fickle [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:59 am ]
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im told twice a day i should be a male model. its not that great, only fat chicks open you. but the real plus is it gives you leeway in your game, you can make a mistake or two and she will forgive you. and yah her friends like you just because your good looking so she is probably going to go out with you easier. oh that and i have a 100% call back rating. every girl i number close will call me back or respond to texts. so....we posess no extreme advantage proof is my wayy uglier friend has stolen three girls from me just because he has better game.

hmm opening is a piece of cake, never been turned down, but im not sure that the type of girls i approach arent just nice to everyone
Author:  jurupa [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:26 am ]
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I say as much attention as hot girls get.
Author:  Starfox [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:30 am ]
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I dunno if I'm in the top two percent, but I definitely catch girls looking at me or nudging their friends to look at me. I sometimes over hear the girls say OMG look at the guy behind me and them turn around. But THAT's IT, never has a girl opened me for the intent of a date. They expect that to be your job.

I remember when I was in rez at Uni one of the girls on my floor would always come to my and lie down on my bed stroke her hair and look at me intently. But I'd just sit there on the chair and do NOTHING. Granted I had severe self-esteem issues, but this is just one of the opportunities that I did nothing about. My God just typing about it makes me regret all those chances so much. So I would never expect a girl to take the lead.
Author:  BamBam [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:27 am ]
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I would consider myself good looking but i find it not an advantage at all. I have multiple friends who are not good looking at all and they all have stories of how girls approach them.

I find that like a good looking girl there is a lot of thinking going on about rejection. With a good looking guy if a girl approaches she assumes that he has higher standards and she risks a higher chance of being blown off.

Then again when i approach i rarely get blown out of the set unless i really mess something up. So its an advantage and a disadvantage.

Also id like to note all my female friends have tried to get with me, really seems to compromise friendships. :( Shallow friends i guess lol
Author:  fearless tat [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:57 am ]
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im very very new to this stuff, but I can say, that being good looking definitely makes the game easier, I hear it all the time...but I dont believe that you get any more girls come up to you, you gotta remember..... AFC walks in a club, sees the hottest girl hes ever seen, he wont talk to her.... shes "too good for him" The girl thinks the same things.... so instead if a good looking guy doesnt open then the good looking girl wont, both will be thinking "wow she/he is a real a**hole, prick, b**ch, etc." Vicious circle i would say. Once again, looks help, and get you some points on first impression, but thats it.... personality is what matters to close the deal. As stated above, Im real new to this world, and I may not be using proper terminology quite yet, but I'm working on it...
Author:  Zarathustra [ Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:35 pm ]
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I would say I'm in the top 5-10%, I look like I'm in a boyband no matter what I wear or whether I shave or not. I don't like it, but girls generally do.

I have only ever been blown out on opening sets 4 times and I always get callback and have never had a flake. I don't know about the getting more IOIs bit but I do find women trying to qualify themselves to me more often (telling their own kind of DHV stories - many of which err on the side of bragging and AFC behaviour).

As a good looking guy who once had no inner game (couldn't even talk to a girl if she approached me) to a guy who has good inner game and no problem doing 10 sets a night, I say that Inner Game and confidence are about a thousand times more important than looks.

As Mystery says: "Good looks will get you an audition, but they won't get you the part"
Author:  TheGhost [ Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:50 am ]
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I find that when girls find me really hot, I can mess up more, but thats about it.
Author:  natrino [ Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:57 am ]
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I suppose if you are really really good looking you get IOIs all the time but you have appoach so it still pays to know PU. I'm a fairly decent looking guy, I go into town and some days I get no IOIs and other i get IOIs from every other girl, I thought about why this must be and i realised wearing certain clothes looked better on me. I wore a suit for a job interview one time and was getting a lot of EC and HBs looking me up and down. Just shows it more about clothes and shoes than looks
Author:  supamanlova [ Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:30 am ]
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Looks can help you get away with a lot of shit. more than the average looking guy but at the end it doesn't mean anything. I get hit on a lot but the fact that I had a lack of motivation for the game didn't help. I get k-close easily…not at club coz I‘m not into that. I usually see lust in their eyes on the “first date“. Let me tell you it doesn't mean anything unless u got game because you can lose her fast if you're not playing the game. You won't end up in the friends zone because of the attraction but she will stop dealing with you if you mess up too many times.
When I was younger, I used to f-close them fast. I was doing everything that you guys are learning without knowing what I was doing.. I was in college with a decent car and not that much cash. My game was OK but now it just lacks. I still got the looks.
So looks, money and fame can get you in the front door but it won't get you up the stairs and in her bedroom.
In fact looks can be your downfall. I've walked inside places where I thought I was just to good for the women in there without even talking to one.
I did that to a girl who invited me to a lounge(didn't know she was interested in me until later) and I was acting up. I don't think she ever forgave me for that.

You only needs to look, dress and smell nice....in fact dress alpha at all time....you will intrigue them. my motto: never look like everyone in the club or anywhere, look better than everyone. You just can't lose with that.....have your game and a game plan ready.

if you got the looks, don't rely on it too much. if you're average looking, it's OK. Be interesting, be alpha, be seductive, be mysterious.
if you looks like shit, you might have a problem. You need to work on that first then get your game on.

I hope that helps.
Author:  Playboyforlife [ Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:51 am ]
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Well, I don't feel anything special about being hot, I do get a lot of attention before I even study PUA, a bunch of girls would come and start talking with me. After I learned the pua materials that just made me even hotter...sometimes i would just invade a girls bubble on purpose and she would start blushing.
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