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| Author: | Kmano [ Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | I Can't F-Close!!! |
Hey Guys (and gals), I was going to wait until I could post in the seduction forum for this but its bugging the hell out of me so I'll ask here instead. I can't close. Last night I brought a girl back that I've been seeing for a week almost every night. I know she digs me and I've just been playing it cool. So we watched a movie in my bed and she was sending plenty of IOI's. Afterwards I made a move and we started making out. She seemed into it but as soon as I went downtown she got uncomfortable. This has happened several times with several different women. One night she even said I seemed nervous, so I must have been doing something subconsciously to make her think that. What do you guys do to get her in the mood? How do you stay calm yourself? I've tried the flip on the lights and dl music routine, but last time she took that as a casual time to leave before I could even blink haha. Thanks for your help, -K |
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| Author: | invincible77 [ Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:40 am ] |
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You definitely need to gain comfort. Once comfort is established it will become a lot easier to overcome LMR. Once you try to move things past making out and she resists, take a step back and proceed back to just making out. After a short while try it again. If she resists again, employ a freeze out and stop everything. She will be left wondering what happened and wanting more. Ignore her for a bit then if she tries to come back onto you again then try taking it a step further. That usually eliminates the LMR. |
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| Author: | Ice20 [ Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:26 pm ] |
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Streamside is right. tease her, freeze her. tease and tease and tease till she cant hold back any longer and simply throws you down and takes the initiative. bite her neck, pull her hair, use your fingers to gently caress her back, sides, legs. it drives them wild. |
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| Author: | Kmano [ Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:11 pm ] |
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These were all things I had tried before, but I was probably too anxious before, so I took your guys' advice and planned to JUST tease all night with no goal of getting laid. It worked! but it took about 2 hours  By the end of the movie she couldn't hold out any longer and attacked me. I guess I just needed to take it a little slower and be less agressive. Thanks for the advice! -K |
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| Author: | sorin [ Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:00 pm ] |
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Hey man... Kmano, you need to make her feel comfortable in your presence... You need to make her feel she has a good connection with you and you don't just want to fuck her but you want some sort of an emotional relationship with you as well... You also need to relax yourself... and not be so keen to have sex with her... just let things happen... if you rush into it it's not natural anymore... You need to calm down and build more connection with her... and genuinely enjoy time with her... and take your mind off sex for a few hours while talking to her... that will relax you and her... and make it happen!  Enjoy! |
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| Author: | Zarathustra [ Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:20 pm ] |
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This is where patterns come in. It's obvious that she wants to make your eyes bulge, but you need to alter her state so that her eyes will bulge too. Get patterns that build comfort and arousal. Also I find with patterns the conversational aspect helps to break up the makeing out and add to the push-pull aspect. |
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| Author: | Stygian [ Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:24 pm ] |
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You either do not have enough comfort or you are escalating too quickly, either way spend more time getting to know her in that way so she feels comfortable with you in that respect as opposed to a friend she gets drunk and wakes up beside then later regrets. Simply put: allow her to get comfortable with being openly sexual (verbally at least) towards you before you make a leap into the sack. |
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| Author: | TommyD [ Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | ANTI-SLUT DEFENSE |
all women have an anti-slut defense. its in their DNA, to bypass this you need to initiate kissing but then take it away. Women are used to stopping this that when a man does it, they want it more and more. My tip is when your watching a movie, part way through start to kiss but then stop and say ur trying to watch the film. It will drive her CRAZY. Build that up and escalate, by the end of the movie she'll be gagging for u |
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| Author: | kata124 [ Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:58 am ] |
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It's hard to believe but I'm not all excited about the sex and more into getting as many girls interested as I can. But from what I can infer, I think the three second rule works pretty well here. If you jump into it right away and think of how wonderful she is instead of thinking about what could go wrong and what it feels like, etc., you won't be as nervous. "You are an attractive human being and people like you." also, think of it this way: if you've gone this far, she will be willing to take it further IF you continue to stay in character. The problem is you lose your confidence thereby changing the way you act and pairing her up with a completely different guy who's trying to get in her pants. You have to prove to her that you're the same guy as before and not some AFC who got close but then became himself again. |
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