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Author:  Lancelot [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:44 pm ]
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I am trying to move from good friend to relationship status with this girl. However, I am not sure where to begin. This is sort of like the "Lisa" situation in "The Game" by Style. (I tried some of the attraction method..like pushing her away (not physically of course)..and she didn't like it..sort of like the "Lisa" reaction in "the game"). In short, I am not sure how to move from the comfort zone to "seduction" zone. I don't dare to try a lot of things, because I would like to keep this friendship even if this relationship cannot progress further.

I am not even sure if this question belongs in this section. I apologize for any inconvenience in advance.

Lance

Author:  HotIce [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:03 pm ]
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Okay, first things first.

1. Don't apologize! Not even to us. Unless you really pissed somebody off. Seriously, the first step to being a PUA is to be self-confident and not feel that you have to apologize for everything you say. You have offended no one. And your post is fine for this forum.


2. Getting out of the friends zone is HARD. Even if you get good at it, it's still harder than a regular pick-up. BUT... and this is a BIG 'BUT'... you can do some things to make it much easier on yourself.


First, don't get desperate for that one girl. Avoid "one-itis" which is the disease of the hear that many frustrated men fall into. First of all, talk to other girls, and using what you can learn here, mack them. Tease your friend, joke around with her, and hang out about once a week at most, so you're not a "best friend" (too deep in the friends zone) and you're not a "former friend" (too unknown) .

Next, there are some Ross Jeffries patterns somewhere around these forums that may address it.

But most of all you have to casually hang out with her, make her laugh, make her talk about herself, tease her, make her enjoy you and want more (this is called "push-pull") and you MUST build up kino (touch her). You have to touch her before you can kiss her. And NEVER apologize or ask permission to kiss her. You have to be more dominant for her to feel attraction. Asking permission will just make her more nervous and analytical - she will worry herself sick about how a kiss could "complicate" your friendship. And you don't want that.

Escalate with a calm, smooth dominance, and don't get angry if she's slow to respond. You're a real man now. That way you can escalate and hopefully she will not see you as just a friend anymore. But you have to SHOW high value just by your actions. This is a bit harder than a cold approach because you have already hurt your chances by being a "friend".

Just remember, you can also become a "friend with benefits" which is much easier and more fun than becoming her boyfriend. Be cool, use kino and push-pull, and DON'T act needy or clingy. Hope this helps.

~ HotIce

Author:  Green Eyes [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:58 pm ]
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...The Above post is really constructive, well done!!
However i hate to burst the bubble but you should really FORGET IT!!! ive hit the LJBF zone a million times and i just move on with the attitude that there are BILLIONS of girls out there (and beleive it or not ten times better than her) just remember my motto.......'NEXT!'

however you might as well try!!!

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