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| Author: | Pulsebeat [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Set frames that are too aggressive? |
Hey guys, I’ve read Swinggcat’s e book and it really helped me a lot. But there’s something not clear to me about one part of frame setting. When he shows examples of frames that can be set into the meta-frame he mentions among others these 2: 1) Framing one or more of her behaviours as being creepy 2) Framing one or more of her behaviours as her lacking class. My thought on this is that I’m not quite sure how to calibrate them. I mean isn’t this too much of a neg and therefore bad calibration and also hurting her feelings? Or is it just me don’t knowing when and how exactly to frame like this? Thanks for help Pulsebeat |
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| Author: | jsquared [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:53 pm ] |
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Its really not that difficult man. You are over thinking it. Setting those frames are simply neg theory. You are fine to use them whenever after you've hooked the set. |
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| Author: | feff [ Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:35 pm ] |
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if you think it's weird so will she. point is making her uncomfortable, not you. you need to train and calibrate for it to work good if you're not a natural. |
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| Author: | Sexcellent [ Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:33 pm ] |
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Quote: if you think it's weird so will she. point is making her uncomfortable, not you.
i don't advise making her "uncomfortable". maybe a little insecure, but never "uncomfortable". comfort is a value you are trying to build as a PUA.you need to train and calibrate for it to work good if you're not a natural. now, on the original topic... last night i actually found myself doing this on an HB8 i was talking to at a bar. I said something like "ok but don't bla bla bla , cause that weirds me out". later in the convo i said, ok now i don't like being weirded out, and you are starting to weird me out now", and i playfully turned away. if you escalated enough kino at this point the usual response is they'll grab you and turn you back towards them laughing. last night i didn't escalate enough kino, but she was still talking to me and trying to get my attention after i did that. when you control the frame like this, it makes her try to win your approval. its like A3 qualification. |
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