PUA Forum :: first ever sarge, tips to be better next time!!!

well hello people

just wanted to ask if i could have done anything better for my first time sarging!!

so i meets up with my friend, whos a bit of a beast with women, and we troddle along to the club. Get some drinks, dance a little, have a gander, and my friend spots a hb9 who he knows, so he follows them out and starts chattin to them. I of course march along, and instantly notice that this hb9's friend is like staring at me!! shes a hb 8, and she starts asking me where she knows me from. We get chatting and im negging this scarf she got from ebay and its all going well. the hb9 finishes her cig and goes back inside, so i say ill see ya inside to the hb8.

so later on we see the girls dancing, and of steam in. after a while i grab hb8s hand and twizz her around a bit, and start bum grindin her ( like grinding my bum on her, a specialty of mine

) and i rob her scarf, she playfully digs me and robs it back. Id just like to point out that im getting very good eye contact at this time. i say to her 'that wasnt very nice' and point to my cheeks for a kiss, she kisses one, then the other, i point to my lips, she squeeks out 'ive got a boyfriend' !!

i was just shattered after this, it took me by complete surprise, so i gave her an 'im not impressed face' and she kisses me on the lips, not a full on pull but more like a long peck. Then i just walked away. that was it, i just walked away, i was kicking myself for about 4 hours after that, and i am 99% certain i could have at least k closed if i would have tried harder. I even came up with a line i could have used:

'technically you just kissed me, so you may aswell go all out' or something along them lines.

ive got her facebook so im going to try and hit her up again on facebook, any tips on how to do that?

cheers and you stay classy, manchester!!!

thanks alot for the help guys, going out again tonight so im hopefully going to get to put some of them skills to use again, and ive kind of come up with a opener for tonight, involving some of my old cheesy chat up lines:

say hi and time constraint blah blah, then ask which of these chat up lines is better:

are you jamaican: cos ja-makin-me-crazy

or

did it hurt? when you fell from heaven

hopefully it will get a bit of a laugh then i can go into a chat up line routine woop woop going to test tonight hopefully, any thoughts anyone

did it hurt? when you fell from heaven

hopefully it will get a bit of a laugh then i can go into a chat up line routine woop woop going to test tonight hopefully, any thoughts anyone

Author:	vicvyper04 [ Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:24 pm ]
Post subject:	first ever sarge, tips to be better next time!!!
well hello people just wanted to ask if i could have done anything better for my first time sarging!! so i meets up with my friend, whos a bit of a beast with women, and we troddle along to the club. Get some drinks, dance a little, have a gander, and my friend spots a hb9 who he knows, so he follows them out and starts chattin to them. I of course march along, and instantly notice that this hb9's friend is like staring at me!! shes a hb 8, and she starts asking me where she knows me from. We get chatting and im negging this scarf she got from ebay and its all going well. the hb9 finishes her cig and goes back inside, so i say ill see ya inside to the hb8. so later on we see the girls dancing, and of steam in. after a while i grab hb8s hand and twizz her around a bit, and start bum grindin her ( like grinding my bum on her, a specialty of mine ) and i rob her scarf, she playfully digs me and robs it back. Id just like to point out that im getting very good eye contact at this time. i say to her 'that wasnt very nice' and point to my cheeks for a kiss, she kisses one, then the other, i point to my lips, she squeeks out 'ive got a boyfriend' !! i was just shattered after this, it took me by complete surprise, so i gave her an 'im not impressed face' and she kisses me on the lips, not a full on pull but more like a long peck. Then i just walked away. that was it, i just walked away, i was kicking myself for about 4 hours after that, and i am 99% certain i could have at least k closed if i would have tried harder. I even came up with a line i could have used: 'technically you just kissed me, so you may aswell go all out' or something along them lines. ive got her facebook so im going to try and hit her up again on facebook, any tips on how to do that? cheers and you stay classy, manchester!!!

Author:	vicvyper04 [ Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:48 pm ]
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anyone help??

Author:	Roads [ Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:18 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: first ever sarge, tips to be better next time!!!
Quote: well hello people just wanted to ask if i could have done anything better for my first time sarging!! so i meets up with my friend, whos a bit of a beast with women, and we troddle along to the club. Get some drinks, dance a little, have a gander, and my friend spots a hb9 who he knows, so he follows them out and starts chattin to them. I of course march along, and instantly notice that this hb9's friend is like staring at me!! shes a hb 8, and she starts asking me where she knows me from. We get chatting and im negging this scarf she got from ebay and its all going well. the hb9 finishes her cig and goes back inside, so i say ill see ya inside to the hb8. so later on we see the girls dancing, and of steam in. after a while i grab hb8s hand and twizz her around a bit, and start bum grindin her ( like grinding my bum on her, a specialty of mine ) and i rob her scarf, she playfully digs me and robs it back. Id just like to point out that im getting very good eye contact at this time. i say to her 'that wasnt very nice' and point to my cheeks for a kiss, she kisses one, then the other, i point to my lips, she squeeks out 'ive got a boyfriend' !! i was just shattered after this, it took me by complete surprise, so i gave her an 'im not impressed face' and she kisses me on the lips, not a full on pull but more like a long peck. Then i just walked away. that was it, i just walked away, i was kicking myself for about 4 hours after that, and i am 99% certain i could have at least k closed if i would have tried harder. I even came up with a line i could have used: 'technically you just kissed me, so you may aswell go all out' or something along them lines. ive got her facebook so im going to try and hit her up again on facebook, any tips on how to do that? cheers and you stay classy, manchester!!! First, congrats on getting your first sarge out of the way. Obviously, you gamed her well, I saw push and pull from what you told me and you built up a lot of attraction---enough for compliance on the kiss. Here's the thing: when a girl does something for you, complying with a request, or kissing you, you should REWARD her, NOT PUNISH. Obviously, you had your reasons for ejecting and it was your first sarge so anything is forgivable, but for future references never do this to a girl---especially one you plan on seeing later. Also, after any kind of close, you should carry on the conversation for a bit longer just so she does not get the impression you were only after her phone number or a kiss. If you lay her, and you want to see her again, make plans right afterwards to either call or meet up with her someplace. However I do want to emphasize that up til the kiss close (yes, she kissed you so it was a kiss close), you did very well, especially considering it was your first field experience. Sarge on buddy. P.S. Hot girls tell you they have boyfriends 80-90% of the time, even if they don't. Ignore it, and if it does turn out she has a boyfriend...I leave it up to your moral compass to guide you.

Author:	vicvyper04 [ Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:01 pm ]
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thanks roads, ill keep that in mind, but how could i have rewarded her with the kiss thing if you get me? id just like to note, i feel so geeky right now, im watching frasier!!! ive got a house party soon so that going to be my next major sarging sesh, and im going to be on them womens like a pitbull woop lol

Author:	Roads [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:49 am ]
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There are many ways to go after the kiss. Here's one: After the kiss, wrap your arm around her waist and walk her to somewhere else in the venue. Talk to her, like a human being, get to know her (translation: shut up for a bit so she can tell you about herself), ask her to describe the best parts of her personality to you. When you have to leave, leave on a high note, but make solid plans on what you are going to do when you do call her (e.g. shopping, walk in the park, movies, etc.). Once your game advances a bit, you can take her somewhere else right after the kiss. Say you're hungry...go grab something to eat with her. After that tell her you want to check out another club or bar. It's important that you and her spend the night in several different locations to build comfort and trust. But this is advanced...for now, just go for her number, then talk to her for a good five minutes afterwards so it's obvious you are not just after her number.

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Author:	drunkmick [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:52 am ]
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that seems like one of those occasions where even a half assed boyfriend destroyer would have got you the k-close, ah well at least you know you've got the skills for it now.

Author:	vicvyper04 [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:35 pm ]
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thanks alot for the help guys, going out again tonight so im hopefully going to get to put some of them skills to use again, and ive kind of come up with a opener for tonight, involving some of my old cheesy chat up lines: say hi and time constraint blah blah, then ask which of these chat up lines is better: are you jamaican: cos ja-makin-me-crazy or did it hurt? when you fell from heaven hopefully it will get a bit of a laugh then i can go into a chat up line routine woop woop going to test tonight hopefully, any thoughts anyone

Author:	mr.whippy [ Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:14 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: first ever sarge, tips to be better next time!!!
Quote: well hello people just wanted to ask if i could have done anything better for my first time sarging!! so i meets up with my friend, whos a bit of a beast with women, and we troddle along to the club. Get some drinks, dance a little, have a gander, and my friend spots a hb9 who he knows, so he follows them out and starts chattin to them. I of course march along, and instantly notice that this hb9's friend is like staring at me!! shes a hb 8, and she starts asking me where she knows me from. We get chatting and im negging this scarf she got from ebay and its all going well. the hb9 finishes her cig and goes back inside, so i say ill see ya inside to the hb8. so later on we see the girls dancing, and of steam in. after a while i grab hb8s hand and twizz her around a bit, and start bum grindin her ( like grinding my bum on her, a specialty of mine ) and i rob her scarf, she playfully digs me and robs it back. Id just like to point out that im getting very good eye contact at this time. i say to her 'that wasnt very nice' and point to my cheeks for a kiss, she kisses one, then the other, i point to my lips, she squeeks out 'ive got a boyfriend' !! i was just shattered after this, it took me by complete surprise, so i gave her an 'im not impressed face' and she kisses me on the lips, not a full on pull but more like a long peck. Then i just walked away. that was it, i just walked away, i was kicking myself for about 4 hours after that, and i am 99% certain i could have at least k closed if i would have tried harder. I even came up with a line i could have used: 'technically you just kissed me, so you may aswell go all out' or something along them lines. ive got her facebook so im going to try and hit her up again on facebook, any tips on how to do that? cheers and you stay classy, manchester!!! when you pointed at your cheek you should of acted suprised when she went to kiss you , and then said hey i just wanted an appology remember cocky funny. and when she said she had a boyfreind you could always counter it with somthing like , woah girl i dont want to get too personal just yet , i dont even know you , i just wanted to kick it .. somting along those lines

Author:	vitaminc [ Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:54 pm ]
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Quote: thanks alot for the help guys, going out again tonight so im hopefully going to get to put some of them skills to use again, and ive kind of come up with a opener for tonight, involving some of my old cheesy chat up lines: say hi and time constraint blah blah, then ask which of these chat up lines is better: are you jamaican: cos ja-makin-me-crazy or did it hurt? when you fell from heaven hopefully it will get a bit of a laugh then i can go into a chat up line routine woop woop going to test tonight hopefully, any thoughts anyone if you do this, it would be best to have a lead in story that you tell before you ask or an explanation for asking which you do after you ask... something like: you: hey, my friend and i are busy debating this one thing but we need a female opinion, you guys mind helping us out? girls: sure blah blah you: ok, i can only stay for a sec, which is better 2 pickup lines girls: they're both lame blah blah you: (cutting the girls off) yes, im fully aware of how lame they are.. but there's logic behind the madness girls: blah blah whats the logic? blah blah this one is worse blah blah you: (cut them off again) OMG! you seriously think this one is worse than the other neg neg tease tease (dont answer the question about the logic) at this point drop another false time constraint (i should get back to my friends in a sec) and can either go into another routine (if its a 2 set i'd go for the best friends test, i quite like it) or the girls will ask you why you wanted to know (what was the logic behind the madness) so, if they ask, say something like "my friend and i had a bet going and he lost, so now he has to use the worst line i could think of all night" or "my friend and i were discussing lame pickup lines and we couldnt agree on which was worse, so we made a bet and now he owes me a beer" you get the idea.

Author:	scott89 [ Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:34 pm ]
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Quote: did it hurt? when you fell from heaven hopefully it will get a bit of a laugh then i can go into a chat up line routine woop woop going to test tonight hopefully, any thoughts anyone Please buddy DON'T do it, it seriously is being over used. Thank god i've never even considered it but you have to trust me on this one, use it and they know your game from the off.

Author:	-Achilles [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:41 am ]
Post subject:	Re: first ever sarge, tips to be better next time!!!
Quote: well hello people just wanted to ask if i could have done anything better for my first time sarging!! so i meets up with my friend, whos a bit of a beast with women, and we troddle along to the club. Get some drinks, dance a little, have a gander, and my friend spots a hb9 who he knows, so he follows them out and starts chattin to them. I of course march along, and instantly notice that this hb9's friend is like staring at me!! shes a hb 8, and she starts asking me where she knows me from. We get chatting and im negging this scarf she got from ebay and its all going well. the hb9 finishes her cig and goes back inside, so i say ill see ya inside to the hb8. so later on we see the girls dancing, and of steam in. after a while i grab hb8s hand and twizz her around a bit, and start bum grindin her ( like grinding my bum on her, a specialty of mine ) and i rob her scarf, she playfully digs me and robs it back. Id just like to point out that im getting very good eye contact at this time. i say to her 'that wasnt very nice' and point to my cheeks for a kiss, she kisses one, then the other, i point to my lips, she squeeks out 'ive got a boyfriend' !! i was just shattered after this, it took me by complete surprise, so i gave her an 'im not impressed face' and she kisses me on the lips, not a full on pull but more like a long peck. Then i just walked away. that was it, i just walked away, i was kicking myself for about 4 hours after that, and i am 99% certain i could have at least k closed if i would have tried harder. I even came up with a line i could have used: 'technically you just kissed me, so you may aswell go all out' or something along them lines. ive got her facebook so im going to try and hit her up again on facebook, any tips on how to do that? cheers and you stay classy, manchester!!! if it were me? 7 (9?) words: "doesn't matter... i ain't a jealous boy" and bam do u guys thing that might have worked? comments and tips welcome as usual..

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