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| Author: | callmecaptain [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | AMOGging, need advice |
I tend to be a natural leader and decision maker. I have this 6th sense which helps me identify other leaders and immediately i want to destroy them, especially when they aren't part of my group and come in with an attitude like they own the place. I'm pretty alpha but I'm short (5'8") and medium muscular build (170lbs). Immediately when anyone 6 ft or above enter my group I feel a need to establish superiority (i guess i may have some napolean complex) I kind of don't know where to start. I guess I'd like to know if there are a set of negs you guys use for AMOGging. Or do i just be a smartass? I can definately be a smartass, but I don't want to start fights. Where can i learn to diplomatically AMOG? |
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| Author: | Bonita [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:56 am ] |
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Well I don't know what it is like to be a guy so I have never had to face an alpha male. But women have the equivalent to this as well. The thing I notice with women is that they don't try to neg each other or destroy each other, rather they pour more attention into the guy and try to out-do the other girl. If a girl started making fun of the other girl, she would look like a bitch. Guys can get away with this a little more, but personally, if a guy is making fun of another guy too much, he looks jealous and insecure. I think of it like political ads. At first everyone talks about why they are so good. But then when it comes to crunch time, all the ads are just attacks against their competition. Think in more positive terms...think of ways you can make her like you more, rather than just make her like him less. |
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| Author: | callmecaptain [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:12 am ] |
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Thanks bonita, You know how Style describes Tom Cruise? I want to learn about Tomm Cruise AMOG techniques. It's not about the girl. It's about leading the pack. I know - primal. |
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| Author: | callmecaptain [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:34 am ] |
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I found some really good notes on the first sticky in the Body Language, Voice Tonality and Dress section. It's called 24 nonverbal cues to establish your dominence [sic] CPT |
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| Author: | Vorherrschen [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:54 am ] |
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Wow we might be long lost brothers. I had to make sure I didn't post that. lol For real though, I do have that same destroy-AMOG-now complex. I handle it differantly with great results. No fights, no AMOG's getting up in my sets. In two parts (energy crank then dominate) here's my secret... Crank the Energy!!! As soon as ol' boy walks up and says his first lame AFC line, you laugh and crack another joke. He thinks your welcoming him into the set so you shake his hand and ask him what his name is with a big smile on your face that says "yea, I am the fucking man." Then move your body to block him out of the set. The trick is to put that smile on your face. Say something else stupid to him. I have to pause here. Now I have never had this done to me (or if I did I just ran the fool over without noticing). Because I have never been on the other side, I can only guess what goes through the guys head. I would imagine that when he see's you there with the set he is a little worried that he will be in your kool-aid (which he is) so no matter how alpha he may be he is still looking for a way to deal with or work next to you. When you snatch his hand up and ask him his name he must immediately breathe a mental sigh of relief (I think what happens is this puts him into beta mode). Which leads straight into the next part... Dominate!!! Preferably while he is mid-sentence answering whatever you just said to him you spin back around into the set and blow it up with some fantastic idea or great game that has to be played right then (i.e. marry, fuck or kill). After that just keep the girls attention on you while keeping him blocked out of the set with your body. Trust me. Played well he is left standing on the outside still trying to process what just happened to him. It doesn't take long before he becomes really uncomfortable standing there looking like a tool. Now I am not a small guy (6 foot, 190) but by no means huge. I have blocked a 6' 5'' 250lb alpha using this method. A few side notes: even if you don't notice immediately that he has arrived you can still work it. Two nights ago this HB8 I was gaming is sitting next to me when her ex walks up. He gets as far as asking her to dance. Her body language is saying "yikes!" (plus she is having an incredible time with me) so I pull it off while sitting down (instead of blocking with the body, get her full attention back on you with the game your spitting). He walked off not very happy with himself. She actually complimented me on the way I handled it. His boy comes up later to try and pull her away and I do it again. When he walked off she starts complaining about them doing that. What do I say? "He seemed cool enough." And that is where your money is made. You do not emotionally react (because people only emotionally react to people with higher value or those who threaten our value) and you look super cool for the way you protected her from all those other guys who are just trying to get in her pants (HA!). Your left with DHV and feeling very pleased and alpha. Hope this helps you out. Remember that you are the coolest mother fucker in the place (unless im there. lol jk) and play it with confidence. No one can break your game. That is the foundation of my inner game. Now get out there and BE ALPHA! Your the man. P.S. I cant remember who I got the "because people only emotionally react to people with higher value or those who threaten our value" idea from but im acknowledging him now. I read it every time before I go sarging. |
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| Author: | Vorherrschen [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:02 am ] |
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Bonita, again with the slam dunk! (I've read and enjoyed a few of your other posts.) The whole point of the Energy Crank and Dominate routine from above (my invention so I get to name it  ) is to not come off looking jealous or insecure but rather to look cool and in charge. I was working on that beast of a post while you guys posted yours but I like what is on this thread so far. |
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| Author: | callmecaptain [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:21 am ] |
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Vorherrschen, Hell yeah dude. See I've been having trouble being friendly without putting myself in a position where it seems as if I'm trying to qualify to them. An AMOG will enter, and typically I try to show that I don't give a shit who he is by completely ignoring him, or making fun of him in a joking way (but the making fun thing as bonita said can make you come off like a dick). My goal is to have them realize I'm in charge so that they qualify to me. But, i guess by making it seem as if you're friendly to them they let down thier gaurd, and then you just AMOG them by interrupting and turning your back to them. I think I'll try it out. Thanks for the detailed post and example man. And thanks bonita for your thoughts as well. These concepts come together quite nicely. CPT |
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| Author: | one4romeo [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:14 am ] |
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AMOG's dont get angry its just not necessary. You see if you are not in control and you just want to rip an AMOG apart you are out of control. Your threatened by what you percieve to be competition. We are all on the same team. A true DHV is brushing your shoulder off because nothing affects a true amog with STRONG self confidence. Yes Tom Cruise is the AMOG that AMOGGED Styles because he has STRONG CONTROL of his inner game. Tom is noted for saying "put your manners back in" when he was being interviewed by a journalist that was being really intrusive and aggressive - now that is what a natural amog does not punch him out. I deal alongside the police with aggressive idiots daily. It seems that these people that have huge insecurities and LSE if they need to tear appart their competition. Any amog worth his weight in gold would welcome you in. If you are having troubles with cock blockers that is a different storey - there is soooo much fat on the table that if you are gaming and an amog busts in do the usual stuff ask bout his gf, where are his mates, roll your eyes at the girls when he breaks in. Agression is DLV. Your build or how much money you have in the bank doesnt mean a thing in social value. I would laugh at a 170pound guy that was getting aggressive I am 6foot tall 120kg or 265pound in your speak ex footballer, current bodybuilder and mixed martial arts lover and fireman by trade. I wouldnt even need to take my shirt off to intimidate which isnt neccessary because I would rather have her hand on my stomach (chicks love the feel of a good 6 pack). I travel in quality circles with like minded people because we love to socialise so dont make a fool of yourself and DHV and get into the group not antaganise the group. If I saw that you were trying to elevate your social position I would welcome you into my group - otherwise you would have to kick me in the balls - I would fall to the ground and my mates would pick me up laughing and buy me a drink for not hitting you back because they know it just wouldnt be fair. I hope this helps |
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| Author: | sorin [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:18 am ] |
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the best way to AMOG is to turn your back on the guy and simply ignore him... act as if he's not there... 
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| Author: | one4romeo [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:29 am ] |
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the best way to AMOG is to turn your back on the guy and simply ignore him... cant beat this advice - spot on sorin![/quote] |
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| Author: | sorin [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:02 pm ] |
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i think it's the best way to amog, and has always worked for me... they tried to pick up fight with me because of gelousy but they couldn't stand the shame i put them too when i just turned my back on them and continued gaming the girl like nothing had happened TOTALLY RELAXED... knowing he can't do anything from my back... he'd want a face to face first... sorry... i won't give him that present...
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| Author: | Lockes [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:32 pm ] |
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great posts, but the problem i have with amog's is when they come in with a way higher energy than me, which i have high energy but if i go any higher ill look like an idiot, but they seem to pull it off. I try to be calm and collect and still be fun, but they just seem to outshine me. Anybody else have this problem? |
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| Author: | Vorherrschen [ Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:39 pm ] |
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Lockes, I would say that it depends on the situation but here are a few possibles. Depending on where you are at in the process him coming in with high energy could be a great distraction for the group while you isolate the target. If he comes at your target then the method I explained above will work. Remember that unless he is Brad Pitt, if you have already been talking to the set than you have rapport and he does not. Simple as that brother. |
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| Author: | jsr52 [ Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:45 am ] |
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guys you gotta lay off the steriods and the protein shakes. But are you tryin to impress guys or trying to get with girls? Who cares about the other guys. It actually helps to become friends with other guys. Befriend your enemy. No girl wants to be in a relationship with a dickbag. Sorry bro but 5'8 isn't big. I shit bigger logs then you. Try something like that if you feel so insecure. Lateerrr |
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| Author: | callmecaptain [ Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:22 am ] |
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Quote: I shit bigger logs then you
See English 1A proper use of then/thanAlso see pharmacist - discuss metamucil and stool softener Goodluck CPT |
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