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Author:  Davey [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:17 pm ]
Post subject:  How Do I get Rid Of Her Ugly Friend?
Last weekend I made eye contact with a really good looking girl, she was just coming off the dance floor with her mate.

Her (rather large) friend had a fantastic tattoo on her back, so I used this as my "in", and got talking to them both. I asked my target if she had tattoos, she asked about mine, it got flirty along the lines of "Yeah you can see them maybe later" that sort of thing. She was definitley interested. But -

Her ugly friend was going nowhere. I can understand, they came out together, they're going home together. I couldn't politely seperate them, I didn't want to offend the big girl and therefore offend the hottie too. In the event, I got dragged away by my estranged wife's best friend who grabbed my crotch, etc but thats another story!

So - how do you seperate two girls who appear inseperable? Especially if one of them is big and ugly!
Author:  JSmooth [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:03 pm ]
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The Answer is "You don't." If you seperate a two set without someone there keep her entertained it's not going to work. The obstacle is going to be worried about her friend with some guy. Your target is going to be worried about her being alone. It just doesn't work out!

If you have a wing then you have someone to keep the obstacle busy. You also have the option of merging some sets and so that the obstacle has some new friends to talk to before you isolate.

In the case you can't do this, then you are going to have to move the two set together. If you want to go with them down then go sit them down together. Everywhere and everything you do you need to take them together. You need the obstacle to like you. You need the target to like you just a little bit more. Keep them together to preserve comfort levels! Also, when they are driving home together they are going to talk about how great you where instead of, "Why did you abandon your friend? Where did you go off to with that guy?"

So let's say you move them together and you sit them down on the couch. A lot of people would think to sit in the middle of them. Now in a louder environment like a night club if you talk to one the other can't here what's being said and feels left out which isn't cool so this is how you should sit.

You - Target (middle) - Obstacle. This way you can talk over your target to the obstacle and leave her out a bit but everyone can hear what's being said and no one is being left out. You can still play the same games in comfort and all but now you do it for them both. You keep them together and you will get better results.

Trust me I've done this many times in field, and even created 3 somes this way. It works! 8)
Author:  Ezo [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:06 pm ]
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He he, how did you create the threesome? How do you kino escalate without leaving the obstacle out or being a total pervert. (Well without looking like the perverts we are...)
Author:  Buck-Itz [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:25 pm ]
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Or another way is you can simply just pickup a wing at the club, grab a guy thats walking or standing alone adn bring in to your conversation by asking the grls opinion on something tell them they are wrong (in a nice neggin' way) adn grab the guy and ask his opinion on the question while luring him in to the set place your self next to the target and let him stand next to the targets friend to keep her busy, while he is there take her on a mini date by telling her she is going to buy you a drank, or dance with you so that it doesn't leave the friend is less likely to stand in your way if she has someone to talk to
Author:  JSmooth [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:41 pm ]
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He he, how did you create the threesome? How do you kino escalate without leaving the obstacle out or being a total pervert. (Well without looking like the perverts we are...)
I kino esclated a bit on both of them actually. :) Everything was good I kino escalated on them both. I also danced with both of them. I got in some fun sexual conversations. I found out one was into bondage and stuff, they were both bi, and worked as strippers from time to time. They were very sexual girls, so it worked out.
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Or another way is you can simply just pickup a wing at the club, grab a guy thats walking or standing alone adn bring in to your conversation by asking the grls opinion on something tell them they are wrong (in a nice neggin' way) adn grab the guy and ask his opinion on the question while luring him in to the set place your self next to the target and let him stand next to the targets friend to keep her busy, while he is there take her on a mini date by telling her she is going to buy you a drank, or dance with you so that it doesn't leave the friend is less likely to stand in your way if she has someone to talk to
Very good example. As I mentioned of merging sets to keep your obstacle occupied.
Author:  Roads [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:55 pm ]
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I like the bit about siting You|Target|Obstacle that J mentioned.

It's absolutely critical you DO NOT sit in the middle in this scenario. You are setting the girls up for competition this way, and whenever you give too much attention to one girl the other will pine for your attention (staring at the back of someone's head gets boring awfully quick). If you attempt to divide your attention evenly by whipping your head back and forth like a rag-doll you will lose both girls.

You could also try You|Obstacle|Target at first. This gives the target a greater degree of comfort and will shut down her bitch shield before she ever has a chance to bring it up. You let your personality or routines do the DHV work for you in conversation with the obstacle and your target will pine for your attention, at which time you bounce the 2 set to another location in the venue and sit next to the target. Or, you could merge sets and set the obstacle up with someone.
Author:  Davey [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:13 pm ]
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J Smooth - WTF? In my country we call that "a result"! Strippers, bi, bondage, sounds like Christmas came early!

Great advice and comments though guys, thanks. Trouble is, not that many discerning guys are gonna wanna be thrown at a big plain girl, even if it to help out a fellow PUA!
Author:  Bonita [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:55 pm ]
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The Answer is "You don't." If you seperate a two set without someone there keep her entertained it's not going to work. The obstacle is going to be worried about her friend with some guy. Your target is going to be worried about her being alone. It just doesn't work out!
Perfect answer...girls are not like guys in that girls arent comfortable at a bar by themselves (it makes us look like we have not friends and many girls lack the confidence to walk up to new people)

If you send her away she will be worried the whole night and keep checking back in on her friend. She won't really respect you and will prob be a "cockblock" for you guys
Author:  JSmooth [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:37 pm ]
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The Answer is "You don't." If you seperate a two set without someone there keep her entertained it's not going to work. The obstacle is going to be worried about her friend with some guy. Your target is going to be worried about her being alone. It just doesn't work out!
Perfect answer...girls are not like guys in that girls arent comfortable at a bar by themselves (it makes us look like we have not friends and many girls lack the confidence to walk up to new people)

If you send her away she will be worried the whole night and keep checking back in on her friend. She won't really respect you and will prob be a "cockbloack" for you guys
Thanks Bonita for backing me on that! I can't count how many sets I've watched new guys isolate the target from and things get crazy really damn quick, and they go bad for the guy.

Also a tip for you guys, assuming you are working a bigger set when you do isolate sit where the group can see you. If she has eye contact with her friends everyone knows everyone is okay and it works out better. But sit far enough away you to can sit down and conversate. But there is no reason to flip people out and wondering where their friend is at and what she's doing.
Author:  Ezo [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:59 am ]
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Great advice on the eyecontact thing Jsmooth. I agree, if they can girl signal among each other they are less likely to interrupt.

Bonita, you touch a very important issue here. It is true that girls are different from guys in the sense that girls (alone in a bar) feel like losers without friends... However, guys should (SHOULD) feel this too since this is the way they are percieved by girls. Other guys couldnt care less since they are busy watching the girls.
To all my bros out there, remember that we are playing a male game but with female referees!
Author:  Bonita [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:13 pm ]
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However, guys should (SHOULD) feel this too since this is the way they are percieved by girls. Other guys couldnt care less since they are busy watching the girls.
From my personal experience, which shapes MY opinion (not talking about all girls), but I think it is okay for a guy to go out alone. I do not think that he has no friends and a guy should not have to feel guilty. Due to the different social programming of men an women, some things are more accepted for one sex over the other (just like men are programmed not to cry and girls are almost encouraged to do so--just for example). Men were taught to be breadwinners and thus are more independent. Women throughout history had to rely on others for support and are far less independent (though that is changing some).
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