PUA Forum :: What the best number close routine?

if you have the dominant/alpha persona, it's very easy.

"blablabla, you're cool/special/cute/etc. Will you go on a date with me? " it's not worth the shit fi she says no. If she says yes "what's your number, I'll call you when I'm back in town."

closed.

Smoothest one seems to be a time constraint then tell her rather than ask

e.g.. "ok so we are off to club x/meet a friend/catch a bus/blah blah in a minute so put your number in (take your phone out and put it almost to her chest in between breasts but a bit lower and she WILL take it off you in most cases .. it's an automatic reaction for msot people when they have something put to their chest) and I'll maybe give you a call later.

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Compliments are usually bad but "cute" can be a NEG because most women would preferr to see themselves as "hot" or "beautiful". Though they've heard it a million times.

"will you go on a date with me?" seems needy as hell unless presented carefully. Alpha, as you said, would be an absolute must in that case. I'd make sure I had a caveman club n my hand while I asked her.

I prefer "why don't you give me your #", in a declarative way as opposed to interrogative. Better than "CAN I Have your #" , where it seems you're asking permission"DLV" It's YOUR frame, not hers. In you're frame, chicks always give the # without hesitation unless there's something wrong with them.

Alpha doesn't ask permission, he TELLS, as if the number exchange is already assumed..

Author:	Kasdrup [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:25 pm ]
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Hola. What the best number close routine for daygame? I tried LoveSystems's "would you like me to call you?," but it didn't work that well.

Author:	Charlie Brown [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:04 pm ]
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I only recently improved on my closing weakness. However my advice to you would be to TELL her to give you her #, don't "ask". It less about it being a routine and more of a timing issue after you've built attraction and comfort. Don't get the # and run, as they say. Rather get the number and talk with her a few minutes before you depart. That way it seems less like a pick up to her.

Author:	CotzY69 [ Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:19 pm ]
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in the book the game by neil strauss .... what he does to number close a playboy model is .... a false time constrain ... "I'm late for an appointment" .... and then said .... "But what steps can we take to continue this conversation?" it works they usually just give u the number r email r watever

Author:	shaggy2299 [ Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:14 pm ]
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Smoothest one seems to be a time constraint then tell her rather than ask e.g.. "ok so we are off to club x/meet a friend/catch a bus/blah blah in a minute so put your number in (take your phone out and put it almost to her chest in between breasts but a bit lower and she WILL take it off you in most cases .. it's an automatic reaction for msot people when they have something put to their chest) and I'll maybe give you a call later.

Author:	com.solo [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:03 am ]
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if you have the dominant/alpha persona, it's very easy. "blablabla, you're cool/special/cute/etc. Will you go on a date with me? " it's not worth the shit fi she says no. If she says yes "what's your number, I'll call you when I'm back in town." closed.

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Author:	Charlie Brown [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:07 pm ]
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Quote: if you have the dominant/alpha persona, it's very easy. "blablabla, you're cool/special/cute/etc. Will you go on a date with me? " it's not worth the shit fi she says no. If she says yes "what's your number, I'll call you when I'm back in town." closed. Compliments are usually bad but "cute" can be a NEG because most women would preferr to see themselves as "hot" or "beautiful". Though they've heard it a million times. "will you go on a date with me?" seems needy as hell unless presented carefully. Alpha, as you said, would be an absolute must in that case. I'd make sure I had a caveman club n my hand while I asked her. I prefer "why don't you give me your #", in a declarative way as opposed to interrogative. Better than "CAN I Have your #" , where it seems you're asking permission"DLV" It's YOUR frame, not hers. In you're frame, chicks always give the # without hesitation unless there's something wrong with them. Alpha doesn't ask permission, he TELLS, as if the number exchange is already assumed..

Author:	Charlie Brown [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:19 pm ]
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Quote: Smoothest one seems to be a time constraint then tell her rather than ask e.g.. "ok so we are off to club x/meet a friend/catch a bus/blah blah in a minute so put your number in (take your phone out and put it almost to her chest in between breasts but a bit lower and she WILL take it off you in most cases .. it's an automatic reaction for msot people when they have something put to their chest) and I'll maybe give you a call later. You use BOTH. A time constraint is in your OPENER. Getting her # is closing. Keep in mind , an N-close requires a M3 "time bridge" I might have misinterpreted your post as THAN, "instead of", rather than THEN,"in addition to".

Author:	com.solo [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:45 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: if you have the dominant/alpha persona, it's very easy. "blablabla, you're cool/special/cute/etc. Will you go on a date with me? " it's not worth the shit fi she says no. If she says yes "what's your number, I'll call you when I'm back in town." closed. Compliments are usually bad but "cute" can be a NEG because most women would preferr to see themselves as "hot" or "beautiful". Though they've heard it a million times. "will you go on a date with me?" seems needy as hell unless presented carefully. Alpha, as you said, would be an absolute must in that case. I'd make sure I had a caveman club n my hand while I asked her. I prefer "why don't you give me your #", in a declarative way as opposed to interrogative. Better than "CAN I Have your #" , where it seems you're asking permission"DLV" It's YOUR frame, not hers. In you're frame, chicks always give the # without hesitation unless there's something wrong with them. Alpha doesn't ask permission, he TELLS, as if the number exchange is already assumed.. Several points need to be addressed. First, if there has been a conversation of moderate length such that enough rappot has been developed to make a presumptive number close comfortable, by all means, go for it. However, in many natural conversations you will only be together for a couple of minutes. It's at this point where, you've DHV'd yourself throughout the discussion, where you've created the attraction, but before she has deliberately expressed it (you can usually read it though), that to straight up ask her out, at a point well before most men do it, and before you have complimented her, it is, on the contrary, my man, a great DHV to say to her face that you want to take her on a date. From her point of view, she is just beginning to feel some attraction for you, and she's wondering if you are attracted to her, as well as wondering how confident you are, etc. At this point, straight to her face, without any invitation from her, you compliment her and as she's feeling the 'joy' that you are in fact attracted to her, you then DHV with the confidence to ask her on a date, without her consciously expressing interest. And ultimately, results is what matters. I've k-closed 4 girls in the past 2 weeks, day game, and without deliberately sarging. Just going about my day to day business. And a k-close is always a #-close (in my experience). Now, SHBs are harder, of course, and playing your cards more to the rule will likely help. But for most 7s, 8s, my way gives me 90% positive results.

Author:	AJ_Phlare [ Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:32 am ]
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I've found that asking for the number with a question give the option of rejection or decline... If i want a chicks number i whip out my phone mid convo and keep the convo going. (Im from Australia, and so it might be diffrent out there elsewhere... but the first 2 numbers are the same for every single mobile number out there) I simply put in 04 into the keypad, and hand her the phone... without having to say a single word, the understanding is there, and they put it in... then you wrap up... and go on your merry way.

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