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Author:  dieselfuel [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:05 am ]
Post subject:  #close: how long should I wait before calling?
I was having a discussion today with a total Afc friend of mine who considers himself "gods gift to women," lol, about a simple dating basic. How long after getting a girls number should you wait before calling her?
my friend/ wing says 3 days because you don't want to seem to desperate. I say 2 at the most, because if you know what you are doing, you don't seem desperate. Besides, 3 days is an old school dating rule and most girls aren't down for playing stupid games like that.

What is the pickup community' a take on it and why?
Author:  Chief [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:57 am ]
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That "3 day rule" is something from the movie "Swingers" and I promise you that rule is NOT something from the PUA community, even though a lot of people think it is. PUAs understand that the number of days to wait before calling doesn't matter.

Calling her at a similar time during the day or night as to when you number-closed her is actually the important part.
Author:  Rye Lee [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:24 am ]
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That "3 day rule" is something from the movie "Swingers" and I promise you that rule is NOT something from the PUA community, even though a lot of people think it is. PUAs understand that the number of days to wait before calling doesn't matter.

Calling her at a similar time during the day or night as to when you number-closed her is actually the important part.
Exactly. Now depending on how good your connection was, you are ABLE to wait a longer time, but that doesn't mean you have to either. If you meet a girl and you didn't get a chance to talk long, so she's gonna forget about you if you wait more than 2 days, so calling the next day would be a better idea. If you meet a girl and you hung out for a while, then bounced to another place and were together for several hours, then you could wait for up to a week if you really wanted to push it (not advised, merely how far you could conceivably go unless you had a good reason, like the time I went on a trip for 10 days and called the girl the day after I got back).

Make sure you call though, don't use text, it's just so unconfident and easily ignored.
Author:  Chief [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:46 am ]
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Make sure you call though, don't use text, it's just so unconfident and easily ignored.
Aw, don't tell him that. This guy could be a text-game champ for all you know and now he's going to be like "oh I guess I shouldn't use the strengths that I already have..."

*Throws a Bruce Lee at Rye Lee*
Author:  madals [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:52 am ]
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Rye Lee, i disagree about ring dont text.
It sooo depends on what age group, HS kids only text. Its the done thing.
Also the other downside to a phonecall is depending how you first interaction went she might just not pick up :roll: at least with a text she will always read what it says. Normally.
Author:  Chief [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:04 am ]
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It sooo depends on what age group, HS kids only text. Its the done thing.
In Rye Lee's defense, I personally feel very iffy about directing advice on a sexual topic (pickup) to high school aged guys in the first place. The age of consent in some states are 18, and most HS kids are under 18. Sure, I advise any guy on this forum to have sex, but that's me turning a blind eye to age, just giving the benefit of the doubt to the people asking the questions by assuming they are 18 and over.

The advice I give is generally tailored for people old enough to be in college or above. I don't want to get tangled with the law and any liabilities.

Of course, I don't hound on the age issue so much because I'm only 18 myself, about to be 19 in September... but that still puts the burden of lawful responsibility on my shoulders.

And Rye Lee's old as fuck. He's like 64 or something. (jk)
Author:  madals [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:26 am ]
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HS is that young? i am in the UK and over here its 16 thats legal. And thats the age of our college which i thought was the US senior high?

Either way, in the UK any1 under 22 or so would always text as first contact rather than phone. Its just the more in thing. The other advantage of texing is i oftern find it a hell of a lot easier to think about what i am going to say, since phone game is so different to in person because although its still flowing convo, u lose BL and kino and all the other subtle things...

just my 2 cent, i mean pennies :) I am off to have a cup of tea in my castle now :wink:
/madals
Author:  Chief [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:00 pm ]
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lol I actually agree with both you and Rye Lee. My generation texts texts texts and PUAs gotta have text game if they do anything other than ONSs. Calling, however, is still more powerful.
Author:  dieselfuel [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:06 pm ]
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Thanks for all the feedback! I knew that this 3 day rule is just some stupid legend. As far as I'm concerned with the whole text versus call argument...well idk, most girls here in Florida like to text, they would text all day if their phone plans allowed for it. On the other hand, I do think all the texting is kinda cheap.
Author:  timmy_laf [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:48 pm ]
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I think that the text vs phone debate also should take into consideration HOW you got the phone number in the first place...

For example, if you got the number from face to face... then yeah a call is probably better.

If it is a result of online sarging then maybe text is a more logical progression and will help with comfort as the girl may be uncomfortable with talking to someone she has found over the internet?
Author:  Sexcellent [ Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:29 pm ]
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let me just add the point that people seem to be overlooking:

It is so much more rare that a girl will be comfortable enough to answer your phone call. texting is just easier for HER, so by all means i say use texts until you have a strong comfort level and you are texting back and forth 5 times per minute.
Author:  Chino Kapone [ Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:40 pm ]
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Next day. Whatever you do, if its done confidently, it doesnt really matter. I am hanging with this 33 y/o and she hits me on myspace more than text or call. When she contacts me its a text. This 24 y/o I was seeing, only communicated via text.

The phone call puts the girl on the spot right then and there.. a text lets her get back to you whenever she wants, but not every female has texting... the ones that don't are really rare....

I vote funny/cocky text next day. no. "hi, how are you?"
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