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kino vs telegraphing to much intrest, help with kino!
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Author:  Sulley [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:47 am ]
Post subject:  kino vs telegraphing to much intrest, help with kino!
ok, i'm havening lots of trouble with kino, i just don't get it, i understand the theory, and what its supost to do in her head, but i just can't seem to find the windows,

i can tell if something is dlv or dhv, i can read if its conversation or a shit test
im still nowhere near understanding the half of body lauange and other sub comucation principals
and i think that is my next plateau in learning game, phsycial signs and contact

I had isolated my target, were sitting on a log, i knew the next step is kino (or should i have pulled that off by now?) if i sit down, she comes to me and sits about 8-12 inches away and looks at me, if i turn to have my leg touching hers, that seems like it would telegraph to much intrest...

and other then that, what is there? its to far to brush my arm on hers.
i read the DiCarlo Escalation Ladder which suggested "Briefly touching her back with your palm while speaking as if you are pulling her in to hear you better" but i would need something significant to say if i did that, what could i say at this point (or earlier for that matter) to my target?
Author:  Infamous110 [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:39 am ]
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It's touching, it's not a love letter.

You're not telegraphing any interest, and fuck her if she thinks you are. You're conveying confidence and playfulness. You're saying that you are comfortable touching a woman, and subconciously they want this.
Author:  Feist [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:33 am ]
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You should have done the kino when you first met her. If you do this from the first minute of meeting the girl she'll just understand that you're a touchy person and it's just you being you and she'll be ok with it.
If you wait till after isolating the target you might freak her out if you start kino at that moment. So it is crucial to do this earlier during the interaction with her.
If you find this difficult to do, you might wanna take a little more time before isolating her. First talk about yourself and stuff (DHV, neg etc.). She'll be attracted to you (and you'll notice it!) and it is way easier to go into kino with here then, since she propably is doing kino on yourself already. Then it's easier to lay your hand on her arm or on her back as she talks to you for example.
And after you'll get used to that you can isolate her, sit her down and climb up on the ladder. And like Infamous says, it's just part of daily life to touch somebody. You do it with your friends so you can do it with a girl you just met and want to be just as comfortable around as when you're around your friends.
Once you do it you'll figure out that there's nothing to lose really, unless you take to big steps in kino.
I hope it helped you out, good luck using it
You'll be ok, don't think too much about it!
Pc by Feist
Author:  Playfellow [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: kino vs telegraphing to much intrest, help with kino!
Start kino as soon as you are in set. You should touch everyone there and be comfortable with it. The point is to make them feel comfortable near you and when they have physical contact with you. If you start touching them early in the interaction, girls will be comfortable with sitting closer to you. And about the DiCarlo Escalation Ladder - I think it's really great. It shows how to smoothly progress with it. Kino can also be used as a reward for compliance or something else. Just start touching people more - it's completely natural.

Some tips: when you touch a woman, you can get away with more when you don't look at her(in the very beginning); and never look at the place you're touching - it's creepy; if you feel she's not comfortable, stop kino and slightly push her away; don't touch her too often - although it makes you feel good when you touch a woman, use kino only to build comfort and reward good behavior
Author:  Chief [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: kino vs telegraphing to much intrest, help with kino!
Quote:
i knew the next step is kino (or should i have pulled that off by now?)
Yes.

Oh, and don't forget to be fun and playful. That's totally my secret weapon :P
If you're sitting on a log I'm assuming this ain't no loud night club where it's normal to pull a girl in toward you while leaning in to talk into her ear. If that's the case I just do shit like "Hey (mischievous look and a pause) I have a secret to tell you. You can't tell anyone else, OK?" Then do that kino shit and whisper in her ear whatever the hell you want.

If other people are around, I like to create that "us against the world" conspiracy theory roleplay by just leaning in and whispering in her ear "whisper whisper whisper" and she'd respond by doing the same thing. Then I'd react with a very shocked expression.

God this stuff is so not going to work when I'm like 40 or something. Well, actually... yes it will. lol.

And I agree with Infamous110
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