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| Author: | cvballa [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Opener and transition |
I am pretty new to this, but I have been going out a lot and working the field. I started with the typical "Who lies more, men or women?" but I found that hard to bridge to a DHV story. So my new one is similar but easier to transition based on my real life experience. My new one is "Do you think the saying 'once a cheater, always a cheater' is true?" This transitions well into a story about how I setup my best friend Jena (Preapproval) with my cousin and she ended up finding out he was cheating on her while we were in Maui (Means I travel and am at least a bit financially secure). I had to console her(protector of loved ones and the ability to emote). Now they are back together, have a son now and are getting married. I dont think he will be 100% faithful. Do you guys think this is a good opener? Good DHV story? Should I call Jena my best friend or good friend? It might be wierd that my best friend is a girl. Thoughts? |
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| Author: | CeeStar [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:45 pm ] |
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I have a bit of trouble transitioning too and your idea of relating it to a DHV story has interested me. As for the DHV story, maybe change Jena to a Ex-gf (pre selection) and maybe say she just found out her bf was cheating on her and she came to you for consolation and now they still together with kid etc? Also does anyone have any links to information on transitioning, I did have a page but formatted my PC and lost it. Would he highly appreciated. |
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| Author: | cvballa [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:24 pm ] |
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I would do that, but she truely is my good friend and I like to fit the methods in with my real life. I know I am a catch, the venutian arts just help me convey that without braggin or looking like a creep. The transition part is really hard for me too. I do think that relating your opener to a DHV story helps maintain the conversation in the first minute or so. Then you can hit your target with some Negs while you are telling the story and transitioning to normal conversation. Girls always seem to ask why you are asking and it is great to have a DHV story you can immediately launch into. |
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| Author: | CeeStar [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:32 pm ] |
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Quote: I know I am a catch, the venutian arts just help me convey that without braggin or looking like a creep.
Its not bragging or looking like a creep really is it?
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| Author: | cvballa [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:36 pm ] |
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I just mean my problem before was opening especially and acting too needy infront of hot girls. Now I have a better way to move in. |
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| Author: | CeeStar [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:45 pm ] |
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Oh I get you now man. No worries, I experimented with a Opener I created. It happened to me a couple years back. It goes along the lines of: "My friend is seeing a girl who is due to go on holiday with her girl friends in about two weeks. My friend wants to start their relationship before she goes in order for her to show how commited she is. If she disagrees and says to start the relationship when she gets back from holiday, do you think he should still get with her?" I have only ever used this once and it worked perfectly and I get the point your coming from with being able to relate to it easy and delivery will be much better then a canned opener. |
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