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Author:  Fin [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:20 pm ]
Post subject:  A request for newbie's.

It has come to my attention that within this board we have some real talent, and these peopple are constructivey contributing to our enviroment here.

However conversely their are a lot of "armchair pimps" emerging, people who have high post counts and high rep points, and are wanderig about these forums, admitting to currently suffering from AA for example.


Please, I smashed my AA when my post count was around 30. And I was sarging once a week for about an hour and a half. I don't think that is impressive, I don't expect anyone here to find it impressive. I just think it should show the amount of time as an aspiring PUA you should spend on these forums compared to on the computer. I fact I think I should be spending less time on here.

Author:  Clancey [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:40 pm ]
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I openly admit that this applies to me in a big way. I don't have as much time as I'd like to sarge, and I haven't been pushing myself as hard as I should to sort my AA problem.

Having said that, I still enjoy posting on here and hope that my comments and experience can provide help to people. If anybody sees anything inherently wrong with that then please say so.

Author:  Fin [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:03 pm ]
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*appluads* let it all out, hat was very brave for you..

Their's nothing wrong with it, but the advice and opinions you give will be much better when based on personnal experience.

Also you didn't join this community to post on forum.. ..most of us spent much of our previous life's doing that. ;) 8)

Author:  Clancey [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:20 pm ]
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With all due respect, my advice IS based on personal experience. Just because I have AA doesn't mean I don't sarge...

Besides, most of my advice has been on oneitis, getting LJBF'd etc. Which I had a particularly bad experience with, and understand the whole situation much better for it.

Author:  Fin [ Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:10 pm ]
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Why haven't you smashed you're AA?

Is it a priority? It should be.

How many sets do you open per sarge.

Author:  Rye Lee [ Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:00 pm ]
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The key to smashing AA: don't hold back, don't be afraid, just do it! Get out there, talk to every single person you encounter and have a good time doing it. When you realise how much fun it can be, then you're not gonna be worried about talking to other people pretty soon.

Author:  Fin [ Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:18 pm ]
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I've found AA is smashed in one day.

But that day you feel like a sarging god, you're just opening left right and centre, like nothing is outa your reach, cause your just in that kind of mentality.

The crushing of AA is an epiphany not a gradual process.

Author:  Rye Lee [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:51 am ]
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I've found AA is smashed in one day.

But that day you feel like a sarging god, you're just opening left right and centre, like nothing is outa your reach, cause your just in that kind of mentality.

The crushing of AA is an epiphany not a gradual process.
That's like saying everyone learns the same. They don't. Some people learn by watching others, some learn by doing themselves, some learn by repetition, some have to figure things out themselves and some just need to be told by others in order to believe/understand. Some people are visual, some are auditory, some are kinesthetic.

Just because something worked for you, doesn't mean that it will work the same for everyone. The thing is, to truly conquer AA, you DO have to get out and do it, aside from that, it may only take 1 set, or it may take 200. Who are you to say what's right?

Author:  Solomon II [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:36 am ]
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I get irritated by this aswell... I always give advice based on my own experiences and try to stay away from areas I don't feel qualified to give advice on. Rather, I'll speculate on the situation and suggest some material if I know of any. Personally I don't think it's ethical to be giving advice if you have no actual experience in field; there's no point in reading some material then repeating what you read to the newer guys in condensed form... if you're gonna do that then at least refer them directly to the material, and make it clear if you haven't actually field tested something.

Author:  supa [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:05 am ]
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Im new to this website. I'll only talk from experience or ask things that I genuinely want to know the answer to.

Author:  Goldeneye [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:51 pm ]
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I'm not even remotely experienced and even I've noticed there seem to be a fair amount of folks who have high post counts and try to throw weight around in threads but really kinda don't seem to have the first effin clue what they're talking about. Strikes me as odd. I try to keep the policy, "Only respond to what you can speak to from direct experience." Occasionally I'll respond to something I'm not experienced with but I'll usually point it out by saying that it's simply what I imagine I would do in that person's situation. This forum is for, most of all, getting help and advice, and it doesn't do anyone any good if the people giving them advice are just other novices talking outta their butts.

Author:  Clancey [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:30 pm ]
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Why haven't you smashed you're AA?

Is it a priority? It should be.

How many sets do you open per sarge.
I open on average 3/4 sets a night. Yes I know it's not enough, and is probably the reason my AA remains, but that's how it is (for now at least).

I know what you mean about once you've opened a couple of sets though, usually I only get AA on the first couple of sets in a night then it goes away.

I don't think it's a epiphany at all, I think it's more of a conditioning thing, but like Rye Lee said, everybody deals with it differently. I know if I sarged more then it would be gone by now, and I know that it will go in the end, but I'm just being honest by saying it's still something I deal with when I go out at the moment.

Author:  Fin [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:31 pm ]
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Hmmmm. I can see where you are coming from.

The first set thing isn't really AA though. I'm pretty certain most of the pros get that. I get around that "first set anticipation" by talking to friends on the phone, or chatting to someone non-threatening like a bus conducter. It puts me in the groove and I'm just feeling that positive kinda "party" energy.

I find it's not "instant" but theirs a certain point where you seem to have forgotten it. Like it went away without you having to conciously force your way through it.

Author:  Clancey [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:43 pm ]
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Yeah I get what you're saying, like at some point I'll kind of realise I don't get it anymore, without consciously having lost it.

Author:  Fin [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:25 pm ]
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Exactly.

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