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| Author: | cold reader [ Fri May 30, 2008 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What to do when facing ignorance |
I already understand the main concepts of everything but one thing still gets me thinking. What do you do when the girl is being a complete bitch? I mean most girls are pretty cool about indirect openers but others just seem to start off annoyed at the conversation. Like one time I asked a girl if I could get her opinion on something and she waved her arm in a circular motion signaling me to hurry up. And while I was speaking she was looking off to different directions. So if there is anything to help get ignorant girls attention, please post back. |
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| Author: | Emolicious [ Fri May 30, 2008 4:30 pm ] |
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This is one thing that holds me back from even sarging. I have the fear that most girls will do this. |
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| Author: | madals [ Fri May 30, 2008 6:21 pm ] |
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First, if u hurried at that, u failed. U jumped for her. Second, if any girl did that to me, when we first met (hell, even if we had met and were anything short of very close) i would simply stop talking, turn around and SLOWLY walk off. Why? she is being a bitch, if u walk off she will either a) come after you and appologise b) not come after you (in which case she is a total bitch and u dont want anything to do with her)> My view on the matter. |
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| Author: | cold reader [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:38 pm ] |
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Thank you guys, and Emolicious don't be afraid to sarge. I only asked cause this happens only about 10% of the time. So don't overthink this. It was never my intention to scare anyone just starting out. Really, this kind of thing rarely ever happens. |
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| Author: | jurupa [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:25 pm ] |
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As long as thing only happens around 10% of the time then I would not worry about it. Not all girls are going to welcome your approach to them for what ever reason. |
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| Author: | Selective [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | shock! |
I hate this because sometimes it just blows our your whole night. hahahah Why can't everything be easy? Oh yeah, because things that we work for make them worth more...silly! hahahaha When I do manage to plough through it's always because I used shock. You can try to dhv your way inside but she usually isn't going to give that much time. these are two I've used. her: [hurry up motion] you: you're like the 18th hottest girl in here..take your time..guys that are actually into girls like you will find you her: [hurry up motion] you: my friends and I were wondering if you dropped out of high school because you got pregnant or because you weren't too bright.. I crashed and burned on that second one but it got her attention really, really well. I didn't break through the shield but I had her full attention for 5 minutes...hahahahaha I think this was basically the rest of it...i was really nervous because I do most of my work over the internet and don't sarge very often out in public. By the time i meet a girl she's usually hooked already. her: what kind of question is that? me: [I turn and say to a table of guys I don't even know] It wasn't the first one. her: Very funny. me: Listen, that girl over there admitted that it was because she got pregnant. Why can't you? her: You're not funny. me: That's cute... no sense of humor either. [I'm smiling here and usually I'm very good at being C&F with these kinds of lines] her: I have a great sense of humor. You're just not funny. me: I wasn't joking...i'm serious...why did you drop out of school? her: My friends will be here soon. me: Great, do any of them have a sense of humor? [she actually stopped for a second..i thought I might have had it...but NO] her: You're rude. me: Listen, I have to go meet my friends, because...well...because they're fun. her: Good. [I eject...cry later..hahahahah] But like three hours later I'm at a table with a f*ck buddy I made come down to console me and she stops at my table with some really hot friends and says, "That's the guy." One friend giggled and the other friend just looked for a second. I don't know what it was exactly but I had two versions in my head...good and bad. I said, "You had your chance." I turned to give her as much of my back as I could manage. My friend tells me they're gone. I just pretend like I'm ALPHA while wondering for weeks if it was good or bad. I kind of fucked it up but I was stuck. |
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| Author: | Castnett [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: shock! |
Quote: me: Listen, that girl over there admitted that it was because she got pregnant. Why can't you? Hahahahahahah! That shit made my day.   That HB you were gaming must have been an emotional vampire if she didn't find that to be absolutely hilarious.
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| Author: | Zdiddy [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:07 am ] |
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Lmfao that was very smart and quick witted, I'm impressed. I hope I can come up with something like that when I am in that situation. |
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| Author: | santos_br [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:17 am ] |
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When this happens to me I simply stop talking and walk away. No big deal I'm never gonna see her again. Usually after that I have no more AA for the night and I approach some other chicks and often I close some of them. No big deal, mate.. just don't let them freak you out 
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| Author: | Rintin [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:53 am ] |
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i like styles approach to the overly bitchy, be courteous and say how it was a pleasure meeting them and bid them farewell... now you can throw in 'i see your busy' or something along those lines, since i agree with the ideal that you shouldn't burn bridges and just choose to take another bridge. that HB that was hurrying you along might realize she was being a bitch and come back to apologize later, or not... |
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| Author: | cold reader [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:57 pm ] |
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Thanks alot you guys for all your help. And I tried something that actually seemed to work. Well, I was at work and a new HB8 was there. So I decided to go with Juggler method and just say hi. She seemed annoyed (Probly first day pressure). Well I just took a step back and tried to think. So what I did was get the attention of three other female employees and got them all laughing. The HB8 was glimpsing at me constantly afterward. about half an hour later she kept starting conversation with me. So I guess higher social proof is a good technique when dealing with this sort of thing. |
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| Author: | c_n12 [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:29 pm ] |
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Isn't it weird how something can work so well on one girl but go so badly with another? Sounds like you did a solid approach. It sounds like she was on to you though. VH1 changed the face of using the Mystery Method and many girls have begun to draw conclusions whenever a man (especially in a club) comes asking for their opinion. It sounds like you were also investing to much in that one interaction. You're strategy should be: "I'm going to meet this woman and if she doesn't like me there's millions more HBs out there and she can leave me if she wants." - Chris 
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