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Author:  Murs [ Sun May 18, 2008 2:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Structure, give me some!!

OK guys, yes I’m new here and I have read some stuff on this forum and generally know how some of the PUA technique work. However I am in need of structure when gaming.

Heres my problem:

After one uses an opener, I am not sure in what I should do next, do I try link the opener to something interesting and DHV from there? Neg? Push/pull? When? All these things I understand individually but I am not 100% sure in the sequence, so could any of you guys drop a quick walkthrough (lol) e.g.=

1) Use any opener

2) Then it’ll be great if you guys could demonstrate the sequence of what I should be doing after said opener.

3) etc etc..

I hope I’m not asking for too much here, It’s just that I want some clarification. Thanks!

Author:  Murs [ Sun May 18, 2008 5:51 pm ]
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C'mon anyone? :( :(

Author:  The night fox [ Sun May 18, 2008 7:55 pm ]
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I'm only a newbie so i cant give you much advice but this is what style says:

(1)Open
(2)Route your opener (Give a reason why your asking)
(3) Time constraint
(4) Body language rocking out (looks like your about to leave
(5) Convey personality (smile and dont be over enthusiastic)
(6) Convey disinterest
(7) Cold read
(8) Challenge her (cat string theory)
(9) Make them want you to stay by doing magic or something cool
(10) Look at where you stand and build more comfort if necessary
(11) Connect with her (commonalitys etc)
(12) Make her qualify herself to you
(13) close

Hope that helps as i said im a newbie so this is the way im going to do my sets too.

Author:  Murs [ Sun May 18, 2008 10:48 pm ]
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Thanks night fox, thats the sort of thing im after really. Instead of doing magic or soemthing cool, i guess here you can add those DHV stuff too yeh?



Anyone else willing to help will be much appreciated.

Author:  B-radd [ Sun May 18, 2008 10:54 pm ]
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Here is an example.
Its a field report of mine, ill post it here too.

--Ok, i saw this 3-set, 2 HB8's 1 HB9, sitting at a table in the club, it was pretty early, 9-ish, so it wasnt too packed yet. I was standing around with some buddies, and made eye contact with one of the 8's.
held eye contact, and then put a shocked look on my face and approached her from the front.
Me: Wow. I almost wore the same shirt tonight!

HB: Well its a good thing you changed your mind then haha.

Me: Yeah for your sake, you would have looked terrible compared to me.

HB's: hahaha

Me: Hey guys, i can only stay for a sec, b/c me and my friends are getting shots in a couple minutes, but while im here, i need your female opinions.

HB9: On what?

Me: wow, is she always this demanding? I just met you guys!.....Btw, tell me your names in alphabetical order please.

HB's: Haha ok, I'm Britney, this is *some-name, i forget*, and this is Michelle. (michelle is the HB9)

HB9: Whats your name?

Me: Always with the demands! You need to be taught some manners! Give me your hand (she gives me it, and i slap her wrist with 2 fingers"

Me: my name is Brad though btw

HB's: hahaha.
HB's: Ok so what do you need our opinions on?

Me: Ok, what do you think about guys that wear pink shirts?

HB9: (pipes up right away) It depends on the guy! you MIGHT be able to pull it off.

Me: fair enough, you seem like fun, can i show you a cool trick?

HB9: ok, lol, what is it?

Me: Ok give me your hands (I stole this from style, btw, she puts her hands in mine) Now stand up, (now i rotate 180degrees and sit down in her chair) I just stole your chair!

HB's: hahahaha
HB9: haha you jerk, give it back (playfully pushes me).

Me: why, i know thats not what u want.

HB9: yes it is, how would u know?

Me: cause i can read your mind.

HB's: yeah ok BS, haha

Me: Ok how about this, if i can't read your mind, i'll give you ur chair back and buy you all a shot. But if i can, You have to buy me a drink.

HB9: deal, ok what am i thinking right now?

Me: No, thats not how it works. How were you in highschool math? You can add...right?

HB9: shut up! Of course i can add!

(i take out a pen, and scribble down the work "carrot" on a napkin, i dont let them see)(I'm about to do the carrot trick, im sure most of you have heard of it)

Me: Ok, im going to ask you some questions, and i need you to answer them all as fast as you can, like dont even think, just asnswer.

HB9: k.

(I do the carrot trick, she says carrot, i show her the napkin saying carrot on it)

Me: See? I read your mind!

HB9: Pfft, that shouldnt count!

Me: so your demanding, and you dont keep your word?

HB9: giggles, ok fine (she grabs ,me by the hand and takes me to the bar, and we get two shots on her)

Me: (at bar, we are now alone) Do you want to play another game?

HB9: Ok!

Me: Ok first draw me a picture, of anything. (give her a pen, and grab another napkin)(She draws a heart, so i know its already sealed now, )

Me: (I take the picture, look at it, then say): Ok draw another one, here is a hint (draw 7 underscores)

(HB9 giggles and writes down her number)

HB9: was that just a scam to get my number?

Me: no, it was a scam to get your number and a makeout (start kissing her)

Me: Ok my friends probably think i died, thanks for the drink, maybe if your lucky you will see me again tonight.

HB9: Ok! i hope so!

Then i leave.

Author:  B-radd [ Sun May 18, 2008 10:56 pm ]
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DHV doesnt always have to be story form, sometimes you can demonstrate it by just being really friendly

Author:  The night fox [ Sun May 18, 2008 10:57 pm ]
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Yeah just dhv or say something iteresting. As mysterey says "say one interesting thing and people will say "wow thats interesting", say 10 interesting things and people will say "wow this guys interesting."" You should dhv throughout your sarge though as well as having dhv stories, for example even in your opener when you say "i have to get back to my friends in a second" your showing higher value.

Btw dude your game is unreal! judging by your picture your around the same age as me. This is exactly the kind of game for younger people i have been looking for. You have shown me the light. *high five man* and rep added.

Author:  Capps [ Mon May 19, 2008 1:18 am ]
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Yeah not gunna lie, that is pretty smooth man.

Author:  Fiction dTAJIr8v [ Mon May 19, 2008 4:42 am ]
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You could just read some good systematic pick-up material. I recommend Magic Bullets.

Author:  B-radd [ Mon May 19, 2008 7:07 am ]
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haha yeah thanks guys, im so proud of that one. It is like the only close ive ever done with out really fucking something up, and it feels so good when u pull off little tricks and games.

Author:  SSniper [ Mon May 19, 2008 10:37 am ]
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start learning a method (mystery, david d, or mine) and when you get into a situation of talking to a woman, you'll see imaginary switches that you're turning on in her head...

You can read more about it in the PUA eBook i wrote...
you can download FREE without registration at

http://seductionsniper.110mb.com/
Please tell what you think...

p.s.
great field report brad.. even i had a laugh :)

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