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Author:  natedizzel1983 [ Sat May 17, 2008 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Was this alpha or AFC?

I am sure last night I made a mistake. I have been gaming on this HB9 for a little while.

When I first met her I went AFC and I could feel myself slipping into the LJBF zone, so I quickly changed the way I was trying to game her and started using push and pull. Every now and then I will throw in a neg and then I use some light kino. I try not to show to much interest in fact my goal has been to make her feel like she is in my LJBF zone. And although I am pretty new at all this I think I was able to build some attraction with her. I have got her to comply on several occasions and even got her to buy me lunch. (And she knows I make a lot more money than her, so I thought this was actually quite funny.)

Now I will be honest the afc mistakes I made in the beginning were things like, complimenting her way to much, being way to nice, and complying with her wishes, and as previously stated I have turned this around.

So last night I am coming home from a BBQ. I get a call at 12:30 from her. I knew immediately I was being drunk dialed but I answered anyway. ( I think this was my first mistake) Then it turns out she was trying to call someone else in her phone book. She asked for some chick but I couldn't remember the name. Anyway I told her she missed when she was dialing.

Her: OH. HeHeHe. What are you doing?
Me: I am coming home from orting.
her: Oh thats far. Why were you out there?
Me: I was at a BBQ.
Her: Oh well I am at Charlies(local bar). You should come? (click) She hung up.

Now that I have rested on it I think I should have gone. The tone in her voice was almost begging me to come fuck her. But I pussed out and told myself she was testing me and if I go now I will undo all that I have done and risk looking pretty desperate to go out of my way to see her.

My question for you guys is where did I make mistakes and what can I do better the next time around? Any additional thoughts and comments are always welcomed and appreciated.

Author:  Stetson [ Sat May 17, 2008 5:10 pm ]
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Well, you could have called her back or txt and say something like "Heyheyhey! I ain't your dog ;) except if you buy me a drink I might consider it"

But again, as always, thats just me :) good luck there m8

Author:  B-radd [ Sat May 17, 2008 5:34 pm ]
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I think your doing pretty good, it just sounds like she knows how to play back a little, she is a HB9.
What you could have said better was when she phoned you (which i think she mean't to call you, and was just playing with u when she asked for someone else), you should have said, "i'm just leaving a BBQ and going to meet some friends at a club"
That way it sounds like you have other options, so if u do show up, it should be a privalege for HER.
Then i would of said maybe ill stop by.
Then i would have stopped by, went in, done some quick game on her (it'd be easy if shes that drunk), then i would leave saying my freinds are waiting.
That would just leave her wanting more, she'd probably even try and convince you to stay.

Author:  Goldeneye [ Sat May 17, 2008 5:37 pm ]
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I'm not sure which it was, but *if* it was AFC you can probably recover from it.

Text her today--"You know, I might've said yes last night if you'd sounded halfway sober."

Author:  natedizzel1983 [ Sat May 17, 2008 6:56 pm ]
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Goldeneye. I love that idea. I will do that today. So do you guys think I increased my appeal or decreased by not going last night?

Author:  B-radd [ Sat May 17, 2008 8:48 pm ]
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I think that depends on what you told her.
If she knew you didnt go b/c you were going to DO something else, then it would increase your appeal, b/c she would see that you have a life, and shes not always on the front burner.
If she thinks you were just going home, then it might decrease your appeal, b/c she might think ," well if he would rather sleep then hang with me then fuck him"

Author:  natedizzel1983 [ Mon May 19, 2008 5:01 am ]
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Well. She probably thinks I was going home since that is what I told her when she originally asked what I was doing.

Anyone else? The more comments and feedback the merrier.

Author:  Drifter99 [ Tue May 20, 2008 3:09 am ]
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Or you could make it seem like you met other friends at a club or somewhere... (that way it shows that you did something else other than going home) and then use Goldeneye's line...

Author:  Nine [ Wed May 21, 2008 8:48 pm ]
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This is me personally but it seems like when she said you should come it wasn't a question. IMO it seemed like she was pushing her frame on you. I'm not sure how I would've reframed it as she hung up on you right there, but I wouldn't of gone. A quip like Goldeneye's it great for taking control but like I said, she didn't leave you w/ alot of options by hanging up. Just my opinon. As to remedy it, I probably would've called her the next day and asked how the hangover was, and then said I was off to do something just to DHV. Tell us how it went.

Nine

Author:  natedizzel1983 [ Sat May 24, 2008 12:27 am ]
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After chatting with her a little bit it seems as though she doesn't remember what she said. She said she didn't even remember going to the bar. So I don't know.

This to me seems pretty unattractive since I was already with a girl who was an alcoholic and I couldn't trust her for shit. It is time to get out of my box and go sargeing instead of preying on women that are conveniently put in front of me.

She is really hot though and I wouldn't mind banging her.

Author:  Stetson [ Mon May 26, 2008 10:20 pm ]
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This to me seems pretty unattractive since I was already with a girl who was an alcoholic and I couldn't trust her for shit. It is time to get out of my box and go sargeing instead of preying on women that are conveniently put in front of me.

She is really hot though and I wouldn't mind banging her.
PUA is about closing and handling girls anyway, not marrying them :D. (To speak the truth, I'm learning this just to be able to catch the right woman when the time comes.)

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