I'm not for the whole "lets get out of here" thing. Sure, if thats the vibe go for it. But if the chick is asking "where" then its not the right way. There's a side of seduction that's "bold"..."let's get out of here"...... and you're ripping clothes off in your hallway. Then there's a side that's more reserved, teasing, on and off. In cases where the vibe isnt there to be bold, I'd do the more reserved stuff.

What neo said and I'll add that these rules for how many rounds of drinks and how many minutes spent is too rigid. Dates aren't linear and don't follow a timeline. If you want her to want to go back to your place it's not about the minutes or how much she drinks.. it's about you and how you are escalating and how receptive you are to it.

Always sit right next to her so the two of you can kino.

Give her a genuine REASON to go back to your place, other than to sit on your dick.

Can you tell me how you always sit right next to her? For example, last night I was at a bar sitting at a table for two. I think it might have felt weird if I had sat next to her, because there wouldn't have been any table space for me on the side she was sitting on if two people were over there.

Always sit right next to her so the two of you can kino.

Give her a genuine REASON to go back to your place, other than to sit on your dick.

What sort of reason do you suggest? Could it just be something banal like to watch Netflix?

Don't go on dates where you are sat down opposite eachother if a SDL is the goal. Do your research on location, a bar with sofas etc. Most of my success comes from dates which doesn't require sitting down for an "interview". The experienced guys can, but the odds are stacked against you.

For example for a first date I did ten pin bowling with a pizza before hand to warm up. At the bowling with a positive vibe, she was giving me kino as well as me giving her kino. We had fun and we still see eachother. Doesn't have to be bowling, but something similar that doesn't involve a time limit date. If a chick insists on a quick coffee date or a drink, then I normally turn it down.

You met off tinder, she's dressed kind of slutty, and she's laughing at your jokes

But she's sitting across the table from you at a bar, so you haven't really done any kino.

You both finish your first round of drinks, at which point you decide to go for it. "Let's get out of here", you say. She says, a little surprised "Where?". "Back to my place", you say. She just flat out says "No." You stay cool and say "alright, let's get another round here then."

She orders water, starts texting people on her phone, and 15 minutes later she says she's gonna leave.

As we left the bar she basically power walked away from me.Is there any recovery from this kind of situation? I'm thinking almost no chance here. I won't text her for a couple days, at which point I'll say something cocky funny or an inside joke. If she bites, it's on, if not, next fish in the sea.

My rule of thumb for first dates is 45 minutes and at least one round of drinks - after 45 minutes give or take if the date is going well I will often ask a girl back to my apartment. Is that 45 min/1 round of drinks rule of thumb reasonable?

Historically, when I've failed to get a chick back to my apartment at the first round, she will usually come back to my apartment after the second round. It seems like I offended this one though. Is asking a chick back to your place a potential date ending/offensive question? I think the answer is probably not - I think she's just sensitive or something.

Hypothetically, with most women, if I decided I particularly wanted to date them, would I be better off not asking them back to my apartment and just going for a kiss close? Usually women like when you make moves.