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Author:  theclaw [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  STICKING POINT
i still cant post anything in other categories, but i have a sticking point here: so today i went to a 21 club for the first time (im 19). i talked to a 9 waitress, i approached her with a joke saying she looks bored and she told me she works there so i said u dont get much tip do u. she laughed then i took her hand and switched position, now im leanin on the bar she stands, she was smiling and laughing and we told some jokes to each other. then she told me some bs story after i asked her to tell me something interesting. then i did the cube. alot of IOIs, even followed me to sit down. then we talked a little more, i figured it was time to close, so i did styles pen and note pad close, but when i give her the note she said shes not allowed to give costumer numbers, i kno i did something wrong here, but dont kno what. i did throw negs here and there so its not neg, and i had good body language as far as i can tell she was leaning into me. so i told her to stay longer and she did, then she brought up boyfriend so i was convinced i fucked up some where.
Author:  Punkyfish [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:37 pm ]
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It's hard to tell without more info but it's quite likely that she was testing you. The fact that she stayed longer when you asked her to says that she probably did want things to go further. When she said she wasn't allowed give her number to customers you should've said something like "come on, I promise not to call you more than 15 times a day". Another possible technique to counter something like this is to use a 'yes ladder' earlier on to have her say that she is an adventurous person. That way, whenever she says something like she can't give her no. to customers you can hold it over her in a C&F way... "I thought you said you were an adventurous person :P"

hope this helps :)
Author:  xxIcexx [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:42 pm ]
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"by now i'd like to think i was more than a customer, as a matter of fact, I dont recall buying any drinks"
Author:  theclaw [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:52 pm ]
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Quote:
It's hard to tell without more info but it's quite likely that she was testing you. The fact that she stayed longer when you asked her to says that she probably did want things to go further. When she said she wasn't allowed give her number to customers you should've said something like "come on, I promise not to call you more than 15 times a day". Another possible technique to counter something like this is to use a 'yes ladder' earlier on to have her say that she is an adventurous person. That way, whenever she says something like she can't give her no. to customers you can hold it over her in a C&F way... "I thought you said you were an adventurous person :P"

hope this helps :)
i like the yes ladder thing, i will definitely remember that, come to think of that, after we sat down, i forgot about kino escalation, would that be a reason? also i felt like we had alot of energy when i asked her for #, would it because i did not run more routines and make her invest more?
Author:  theclaw [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:56 pm ]
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"by now i'd like to think i was more than a customer, as a matter of fact, I dont recall buying any drinks"
oh man this is money, i shoulda said that, and it would be all fine. well this is how i will succeed next time
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