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Author:  SafariTiger [ Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:24 am ]
Post subject:  Mind games?

I have been seeing this girl for 3 months its been ok so far I even managed to close once, but on my second attempt had her clothes off about half way when she tells me she is not ready to do it again and that if I do love her I should wait for her to be ready.
Qn1-Is this some test,if so what's the appropriate way to respond,cause I felt like she led me on prior to that day then just left me hanging when she said she Is not ready to do it again.
Thanks in advance

Author:  R.C [ Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mind games?

How do some of you guys put up with this kind of shit? Honestly?

Author:  SafariTiger [ Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mind games?

Hence I posted here to seek advice. I don't want to come out like I only want sex from her, but don't want to seem like a push over pussy either.

Author:  New-Dawn [ Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:39 pm ]
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So you say you are with a woman, you had sex with her once. You got to be about to have sex with her again and she said no, saying something about love.

Possible reasons:
She did not shower that day.
She did not trim her pussy.
She was on her period.
YOU were smelling, feeling/being weird.
She is falling for you and wanted comfort/reciprocation.
Reason number 843758457, she is an evil genius looking to play games with the men she has already fucked with.

And when i say that the much of the PUA advice is teaching guys to think weird and stupid about relationships i get abuse :)))

OP, stay chill. Invite her again to your place, see how it goes. If she wants to feel comforted, tell her how you feel: you like her, you started to feel for her, you like this and that for her; concentrate on the things you genuinely like about her. Even if you only like her for the sex, tell her you find her irresistibly attractive and you can barely control yourself when with her (while looking in her eyes with a slight smile).

Stop thinking of "games" is my advice.

Author:  Mr. Assertive [ Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:29 pm ]
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I'd ask her what's on her mind. When she tries to LMR again. Find out what the root problem is and you may be able to pass it. Don't play into it because once you start doing actions based off what she is doing is when you start screwing it all up. You don't know what she is thinking, try to find out but don't stress it because it won't be worth it in the end.


On a side note, R.C. said it best...if you had more girls this girl wouldn't be an issue.

Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:08 pm ]
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Quote:
I even managed to close once, but
But then she got the cuffs off.

Did you bother to seduce her the second time or assume things were just going to happen?

Author:  SafariTiger [ Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:10 pm ]
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Quote:
Quote:
I even managed to close once, but
But then she got the cuffs off.

Did you bother to seduce her the second time or assume things were just going to happen?
She agreed to me making arrangements and taking her to the same place as last time so I assumed we were on the same page.

Author:  SafariTiger [ Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:19 pm ]
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Quote:
I'd ask her what's on her mind. When she tries to LMR again. Find out what the root problem is and you may be able to pass it. Don't play into it because once you start doing actions based off what she is doing is when you start screwing it all up. You don't know what she is thinking, try to find out but don't stress it because it won't be worth it in the end.
Thanks
Yea I did ask her and her response oscillated between "if I give myself to you again I might end up loosing you" and "...am not ready to do it again and am not sure when I will be".

On a side note, R.C. said it best...if you had more girls this girl wouldn't be an issue.

Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:22 pm ]
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Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
I even managed to close once, but
But then she got the cuffs off.

Did you bother to seduce her the second time or assume things were just going to happen?
She agreed to me making arrangements and taking her to the same place as last time so I assumed we were on the same page.
You can't ever just assume sex. She could be sitting on your dick naked and see a spider on the wall behind you.....

I'm guessing here but you likely didn't escalate her past the point of no return. Something caused her to heed.

Author:  Calum Tingham [ Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:23 pm ]
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Dude, maybe you're her first?
Maybe she was on period. As other poster said.

Their could be a million reasons for this.

Better to just ask,

"Hey, come on, tell me the problem..."

If she tells you the problem, it's all good, just accept it. Don't have sex and talk for the rest of the date. No big deal. You'll get sex later.

My point is this:

I rarely get to a point where it's hard to get sex. But when I do it's normally one of three reasons, the chick is attracted but afraid of what her family/friends will think... she is attracted but she has a low sex drive (when you get a hot chick with a low sex drive it's a real pain in the ass/balls...)... or she is not attracted. In the latter case, you need to be more physical, stop talking, and increase the sexual tension.

Note: It's not about games, it's about her emotions. She feels first, and acts second. Figure out her feelings, and you can change them. xD

Author:  SafariTiger [ Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mind games?

Quote:
Dude, maybe you're her first?
Maybe she was on period. As other poster said.

Their could be a million reasons for this.

Better to just ask,

"Hey, come on, tell me the problem..."

If she tells you the problem, it's all good, just accept it. Don't have sex and talk for the rest of the date. No big deal. You'll get sex later.

My point is this:

I rarely get to a point where it's hard to get sex. But when I do it's normally one of three reasons, the chick is attracted but afraid of what her family/friends will think... she is attracted but she has a low sex drive (when you get a hot chick with a low sex drive it's a real pain in the ass/balls...)... or she is not attracted. In the latter case, you need to be more physical, stop talking, and increase the sexual tension.

Note: It's not about games, it's about her emotions. She feels first, and acts second. Figure out her feelings, and you can change them. xD
Oh ya I get you,I should have probably talked to her more and considered other possible reasons of her LMR and yes I am her first.

Author:  New-Dawn [ Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mind games?

Quote:
Quote:
Dude, maybe you're her first?
Maybe she was on period. As other poster said.

Their could be a million reasons for this.

Better to just ask,

"Hey, come on, tell me the problem..."

If she tells you the problem, it's all good, just accept it. Don't have sex and talk for the rest of the date. No big deal. You'll get sex later.

My point is this:

I rarely get to a point where it's hard to get sex. But when I do it's normally one of three reasons, the chick is attracted but afraid of what her family/friends will think... she is attracted but she has a low sex drive (when you get a hot chick with a low sex drive it's a real pain in the ass/balls...)... or she is not attracted. In the latter case, you need to be more physical, stop talking, and increase the sexual tension.

Note: It's not about games, it's about her emotions. She feels first, and acts second. Figure out her feelings, and you can change them. xD
Oh ya I get you,I should have probably talked to her more and considered other possible reasons of her LMR and yes I am her first.
She was looking for comfort and reciprocation, making sure she did not make a mistake and that all is fine. It probably sucked for her the first time round too. You needed to seduce her again IMO.

Author:  SafariTiger [ Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mind games?

Thanks everyone for your input.

Author:  SafariTiger [ Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mind games?

So the past couple of days I have focused more on non-sexual conversations and basically been nonchalant about the topic,and proposed activities that would let us both have fun without getting sexual, all in a bid to let her see that its not just about sex with her.Whilst doing this I noticed a change(positive) in attitude
.She has been saying stuff like "am really lucky to have you" and "am happy to call you mine" and just being more involved in general now she calls more times than I do and is the initiator of most of our conversations.
We have demanding schedules so we mostly talk over the phone and online,I haven't seen her in two weeks but am most likely meeting her tomorrow.I welcome any pointers,tips or general advice from you blokes.
Thanks in advance
OP

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