Only two approaches last night as I was out with family and wasn't trying to look like a thirsty loser getting rejected non-stop in front of family!
The 'pattern' of only being able to have a fun conversation from a canned opener/routine remains. Kind of annoying, in fact. If I open with a routine, the 'open' carries the weight of the conversation and then the girl relaxes and everything flows better and she is less guarded.
If I open in any other way (direct, indirect, situational etc) then it gets awkward quick. I find it annoying, though. I still can't just open in a normal way and make a 'natural' conersation from from the beginning. Not really sure how people do it or what they say/talk about directly after opening
This pattern has been the same since I started and is nicely demonstrated in last nights approaches.
First girl//
Were in a pub standing at the bar, and there's a pretty girl sitting down by herself across the bar. I say to my brother, ''watch this girl reject me!''
I walk over to her, sit next too her and say ''Hey! Sorry i'm late. There was a dead horse on the train track''
She says ''HAHA! Errrr.....I think you've got the wrong person!''
I say ''Come on! Don't be like that! I've been looking forward to this date!''
She says ''You're funny! Tell me you're not being serious, though!''
I say ''Ok. I'm just being a dick. I thought you were cute and wanted to say hi''
Then SHE asks ME where I'm from. At this point, she is asking me all of the typical questions that everyone tells me not to ask girls, lol. Where i'm from, what I do, how old I am bla bla bla. I make her laugh a few times and we've been talking for lkie 5 minutes+, and then her phone goes. I say ''If it's the police, tell them you haven't seen me!'' She laughs and hits me and says ''I better answer it. It's my boyfriend''. I mouth the words ''You liar!!'' to her just as she answers it. Then she puts it on loudspeaker and I hear a male voice say ''Hello, babes. bla bla bla see you soon, love you!!''
I tell her I feel sick in a jokey way and that it was nice meeting her.
A positive interaction. Fun and stuff. (but, in my mind, a result of the opener I used)
Compare that to the next mess!
Second girl//
I'm at the bar ordering some beers, and a pretty girl rolls up and stands next to me, waiting to order her drinks.
I don't want to use the same routine opener as earlier. I don't really know what to say and figure I'll just try to be 'natural'
I look at her, and instinctively smile and say ''Hey!''
She looks at me and says 'hi' back and looks away briefly.
I say, ''so, how's your night going?''
She replies ''Fine''.
Already it all feels a bit awkward and completely different from the 1st interaction. I feel it.
I say ''are you on your own? What's happening tonight?''
She says ''I'm meeting someone''
I say ''If you're getting a cocktail, I recommend the 'blue gangster'! They're half price for the next hour!''
She's like ''I'm just ordering food for now''. Looks at me briefly and then her eyes wander again.
I get served my beers. I consider practicing my new rule of always telling the girl I think she's hot in order to allow herself to open up in the 1 in a million chance she's just one of them shy girls who can't be open until the guy puts their balls on the line first, but I decide against it, partly because at this point, my auntie is walking towards me to get her wine!
I say 'cya round' and bail.
Someone on seddit told me that the answer was too always open with something crazy. They said ''The result of them 2 interactions tell you the answer!!''. They said the 'how's your night going' opener set a boring tone for the girl.
But someone on a different forum who claims to have banged like 400 girls told me that he always opens with like ''how's your night going'?''. Another mod also agreed that that sort of opener was fine.
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