PUA Forum :: how to get better nightgame conversations?

So as I understood your problem so far. You go out to club or something and you want to spend your time with her by talking

Every night time game I go to considers of rarely even my introduction. If our 'eyes meet' I go, I grab her by the arm and start dancing. Talking doesn't spark any attraction, your hips between her legs does.

So as I understood your problem so far. You go out to club or something and you want to spend your time with her by talking

What would you say to my approach of taking women by the arm or around the shoulder and leading them to a love hotel instead of a dance floor?

Of course it has worked for me sometimes, but if you were in my situation doing this, just how much would you say to them aside from a sudden "let's go"?

You have to first learn to have a conversation soberly with people in your day to day interactions. Once you make those conversations fun, then night game is wayyyy easier.

Part of it is that conversation isn't the only thing you should be doing. As soon as the interaction starts, you want to start some basic projection of sexuality. A triangular gaze is an example.

You want a few canned topics? Here, tell the girl you were just talking about something with friends and now want to ask her. Pause and let her ask what the question is. Then ask something like this:

If you won the lottery tomorrow, what would you do? Or

If you could spend a year in any other place besides home where would you go? Or some bs like that. Have your own answer ready, ask her why she chose that, and mix up between agreeing and disagreeing with her various reasons.

Obviously you want to have a little gift of gab so it's not mechanical. If you can think of your own stuff that follows this sort of structure by all means. The specific questions aren't important, it's the structure. All the while you are slowly escalating. When you tie it all together, that is a part of seduction.

Sorry, I stopped reading before the end of original post so I didn't read the most important part.

Look, this is how I do it. Keep in mind I don't usually do cold approaches or daygame. I need to establish that look with her, if her eyes are on me. I smile.

Usually she smiles back, I take piece of paper and a pen and write:"Stop smiling so much

" or "stop looking at me

" or other cliche crap and throw her her way. It may sound silly but I'm an awkward guy and this fits my persona so I don't end up being creepy or anything.

It's important whatever you do IT FITS YOU and your personality. After she reads it OF COURSE she smiles and looks my way, and by that time I'm already walking towards her, asking her number and leave.

Call her the same day or next depending on my errands and arrange a date. I don't talk much over texts. Hope it helps.

Quote:

What would you say to my approach of taking women by the arm or around the shoulder and leading them to a love hotel instead of a dance floor?

It doesn't work. It could but usually you have to build some intimacy and trust on the dance floor first. And mind her friends, she's in a group and she doesn't want to look like a slut in front of her friends.

Quote:

Of course it has worked for me sometimes, but if you were in my situation doing this, just how much would you say to them aside from a sudden "let's go"?

You know the moment of silence in clubs, when the bpm go low, it's all fuzzy and grinding SPAM. Whisper something sexy in her ears -"You look sexy in that dress" while putting your arms just little above her ass, touch it accidentally, touch her breast (again accidentally) with your shoulders . It turns them on.

Then ask her if she wants to leave. Or tell her that you want to leave with her. Or be creative and tell her you want to steal her away and she should tell her friends that you're stealing her away for the night. Whatever works.

The key is to be honest with your needs and sexy about it. No tricks here.

Author:	jesterofmalice [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:	how to get better nightgame conversations?
I made some approaches last night and I couldn't work out how to make teh interaction 'fun' and make her not want to leave. With the first girl, I think I tried too hard and ended up insulting her! Then, with the next approaches, after I'd open, every interaction was a bit strained and not really 'fun'. I read lots about what NOT to say to a girl. What NOT to talk about. (Don't ask her about her night. Don't ask her about her job. Don't talk to her like every other lame guy etc etc) But then I don't know what to actually say. I can inject 'fun' into the conversation by giving her silly answers to her questions, but that is only one angle, not to mention that usually, girls don't actually ask me questions. It's always me having to think of what to say next and ask questions etc. I need some examples of good/typical conversations you guys have from the open, onwards. There seem to be very few NIGHTGAME infields online. They're all daygame where the pattern seems to be different (basically compliment, ask her what she is doing today and then get her number), but it's a bit different at night with all of the distractions and every other guy trying to impress her. So yeah, can you post some examples of what your interactions look (from open onwards) when you approach a girl in a bar that is quiet enough for you to be able to hold a conversation?

Author:	Cross De Lena [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: how to get better nightgame conversations?
So as I understood your problem so far. You go out to club or something and you want to spend your time with her by talking Every night time game I go to considers of rarely even my introduction. If our 'eyes meet' I go, I grab her by the arm and start dancing. Talking doesn't spark any attraction, your hips between her legs does.

Author:	jesterofmalice [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:39 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: how to get better nightgame conversations?
Quote: So as I understood your problem so far. You go out to club or something and you want to spend your time with her by talking Every night time game I go to considers of rarely even my introduction. If our 'eyes meet' I go, I grab her by the arm and start dancing. Talking doesn't spark any attraction, your hips between her legs does. No. ''So yeah, can you post some examples of what your interactions look (from open onwards) when you approach a girl in a bar that is quiet enough for you to be able to hold a conversation?''

Author:	Johnny Utah [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:00 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: how to get better nightgame conversations?
Quote: So as I understood your problem so far. You go out to club or something and you want to spend your time with her by talking Every night time game I go to considers of rarely even my introduction. If our 'eyes meet' I go, I grab her by the arm and start dancing. Talking doesn't spark any attraction, your hips between her legs does. What would you say to my approach of taking women by the arm or around the shoulder and leading them to a love hotel instead of a dance floor? Of course it has worked for me sometimes, but if you were in my situation doing this, just how much would you say to them aside from a sudden "let's go"? OP, what Cross says absolutely works in clubs because I have done this myself and it works much better than trying to shout into their ears while the music is pumping. Make confident, positive eye contact and take them to the dance floor.

Author:	Cross De Lena [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:28 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: how to get better nightgame conversations?
Sorry, I stopped reading before the end of original post so I didn't read the most important part. Look, this is how I do it. Keep in mind I don't usually do cold approaches or daygame. I need to establish that look with her, if her eyes are on me. I smile. Usually she smiles back, I take piece of paper and a pen and write:"Stop smiling so much " or "stop looking at me " or other cliche crap and throw her her way. It may sound silly but I'm an awkward guy and this fits my persona so I don't end up being creepy or anything. It's important whatever you do IT FITS YOU and your personality. After she reads it OF COURSE she smiles and looks my way, and by that time I'm already walking towards her, asking her number and leave. Call her the same day or next depending on my errands and arrange a date. I don't talk much over texts. Hope it helps. Quote: What would you say to my approach of taking women by the arm or around the shoulder and leading them to a love hotel instead of a dance floor? It doesn't work. It could but usually you have to build some intimacy and trust on the dance floor first. And mind her friends, she's in a group and she doesn't want to look like a slut in front of her friends. Quote: Of course it has worked for me sometimes, but if you were in my situation doing this, just how much would you say to them aside from a sudden "let's go"? You know the moment of silence in clubs, when the bpm go low, it's all fuzzy and grinding SPAM. Whisper something sexy in her ears -"You look sexy in that dress" while putting your arms just little above her ass, touch it accidentally, touch her breast (again accidentally) with your shoulders . It turns them on. Then ask her if she wants to leave. Or tell her that you want to leave with her. Or be creative and tell her you want to steal her away and she should tell her friends that you're stealing her away for the night. Whatever works. The key is to be honest with your needs and sexy about it. No tricks here.

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Author:	Mr. Assertive [ Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: how to get better nightgame conversations?
You have to first learn to have a conversation soberly with people in your day to day interactions. Once you make those conversations fun, then night game is wayyyy easier.

Author:	jesterofmalice [ Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: how to get better nightgame conversations?
Quote: You have to first learn to have a conversation soberly with people in your day to day interactions. Once you make those conversations fun, then night game is wayyyy easier. I find the issues are teh same with strangers - day or night. Day is easier, though because girls don't have loads of distractions and their bitch shields aren't up

Author:	DJ_Z [ Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:00 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: how to get better nightgame conversations?
Part of it is that conversation isn't the only thing you should be doing. As soon as the interaction starts, you want to start some basic projection of sexuality. A triangular gaze is an example. You want a few canned topics? Here, tell the girl you were just talking about something with friends and now want to ask her. Pause and let her ask what the question is. Then ask something like this: If you won the lottery tomorrow, what would you do? Or If you could spend a year in any other place besides home where would you go? Or some bs like that. Have your own answer ready, ask her why she chose that, and mix up between agreeing and disagreeing with her various reasons. Obviously you want to have a little gift of gab so it's not mechanical. If you can think of your own stuff that follows this sort of structure by all means. The specific questions aren't important, it's the structure. All the while you are slowly escalating. When you tie it all together, that is a part of seduction.

Author:	jesterofmalice [ Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:11 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: how to get better nightgame conversations?
Quote: Part of it is that conversation isn't the only thing you should be doing. As soon as the interaction starts, you want to start some basic projection of sexuality. A triangular gaze is an example. You want a few canned topics? Here, tell the girl you were just talking about something with friends and now want to ask her. Pause and let her ask what the question is. Then ask something like this: If you won the lottery tomorrow, what would you do? Or If you could spend a year in any other place besides home where would you go? Or some bs like that. Have your own answer ready, ask her why she chose that, and mix up between agreeing and disagreeing with her various reasons. Obviously you want to have a little gift of gab so it's not mechanical. If you can think of your own stuff that follows this sort of structure by all means. The specific questions aren't important, it's the structure. All the while you are slowly escalating. When you tie it all together, that is a part of seduction. hi. That's the thing, though. I can on occasion get a good fun convo going, but pretty much only when I rely on some sort of canned routine type opener. But I hate relying on them sort of openers, least of all because it can come across as socially calibrated in the wrong environment! I got my only ever one-night-stand by approaching a girl and telling her I was her tinder date. She played along and we roleplayed, and it broke the ice and everything just flowed and I eventually took her back to my place. It's a stark contrast to when I have nothing planned and take the 'just say 'hi'' advice I read about. I do that, say 'hi!' and smile. She looks at me like i'm an alien. Then I think 'shit, what do I say now?!!''. The first thing to come out of my brain is ''how are you'', ''or what's up?'', or ''how's your night going?'' kind of thing, and from that point on, i'm never able to get the conversation off the ground. But thanks. Maybe with night game, routines and things to get the convo off the ground are a must.

Author:	Johnny Utah [ Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:14 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: how to get better nightgame conversations?
Quote: Sorry, I stopped reading before the end of original post so I didn't read the most important part. Look, this is how I do it. Keep in mind I don't usually do cold approaches or daygame. I need to establish that look with her, if her eyes are on me. I smile. Usually she smiles back, I take piece of paper and a pen and write:"Stop smiling so much " or "stop looking at me " or other cliche crap and throw her her way. It may sound silly but I'm an awkward guy and this fits my persona so I don't end up being creepy or anything. It's important whatever you do IT FITS YOU and your personality. After she reads it OF COURSE she smiles and looks my way, and by that time I'm already walking towards her, asking her number and leave. Call her the same day or next depending on my errands and arrange a date. I don't talk much over texts. Hope it helps. Quote: What would you say to my approach of taking women by the arm or around the shoulder and leading them to a love hotel instead of a dance floor? It doesn't work. It could but usually you have to build some intimacy and trust on the dance floor first. And mind her friends, she's in a group and she doesn't want to look like a slut in front of her friends. Quote: Of course it has worked for me sometimes, but if you were in my situation doing this, just how much would you say to them aside from a sudden "let's go"? You know the moment of silence in clubs, when the bpm go low, it's all fuzzy and grinding SPAM. Whisper something sexy in her ears -"You look sexy in that dress" while putting your arms just little above her ass, touch it accidentally, touch her breast (again accidentally) with your shoulders . It turns them on. Then ask her if she wants to leave. Or tell her that you want to leave with her. Or be creative and tell her you want to steal her away and she should tell her friends that you're stealing her away for the night. Whatever works. The key is to be honest with your needs and sexy about it. No tricks here. Yes this is good advice. While trying to bring a woman directly to a love hotel while she is at a club with her friends is not easy, I have sarged women on the street walking alone and put my arm around them and literally have a confident smile followed by "let's go" and they let me take them to a love hotel for sex. I have done this with women in Japan, China and South Korea but of course most women don't make it this easy and I of course experienced LMR from most of the women who followed me to the hotels.

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