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| Author: | supernova1547 [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | How can I improve my finesse? |
Hey everybody thanks for looking so here's the deal I'm in high school and I cant talk to girls for shit. I dont know how to make simple conversation or flirt or anything nothing zilch so i just need like a few tips or something im 17 and I've never had a girlfriend that's pretty pathetic |
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| Author: | Mr. Assertive [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How can I improve my finesse? |
You're like 95% of the guys here. Just read the free advice and apply it. It will take awhile for you to get decent results but once you get results you can only improve. |
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| Author: | DJ_Z [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How can I improve my finesse? |
I was a virgin until 22, breathe you will survive lol. Honestly if you are in the US, just enjoy yourself and wait until you graduate. High school is a weird environment. Life after, whether it's college, work or whatever is very different and it gets a lot easier to meet women. |
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| Author: | Starboy [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How can I improve my finesse? |
Even though there is a lot of free advise here I'll take a crack at answering your question. Create for yourself a flexible yet controlled game. In the Marines they refer to this as asymmetrical combat. You fight freely under a set of rules. I'm not going to make some long post to describe all of game to you but I will give you a few things that work. You need to search the forum for initiating and escalating touch. Since this will be part of your conversation flirting without touch is just bullshit. Now for the conversation. Some basic rules: Define what you want to accomplish. In highschool reputations can make or break you. Don't go around cold approaching every girl and getting rejected using stupid direct methods. You'll become a social pariah. Instead start a neutral or indirect conversation with a girl (search the forum for neutral and indirect openers). Then elicit a qualifying statement out of her (search the forum on how to do that). Then reward her with a light flirty statement and some light touch. If she's receptive to that then you proceed further. General conversation in between the touching and flirting is easy. search conversational threading on the forum. Also look for posts on how to tell a story. Also, have 5-10 different things you can say to start the conversations because girls talk and you don't want you opener to elicit negative reactions. So then you open the girl, (maybe thread a bit and/or tell a quick related story) get her to qualify herself to you (a lot of time they do it automatically from the threading or story) reward her with a touch and flirt. My goto is a quick high five. then continue to thread back and forth throwing in a story here or there. Don't overdue it though with the stories and let them speak as much as they want. That's just some general stuff for your finesse. There are many techniques and tactics in game and I could sit here all day typing them out to you. Books and 24+ hour courses have been created on the subject. And, you don't have to touch every time you flirt by the way because you don't want to come off as predictable or scripted. |
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| Author: | Autoregressive [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How can I improve my finesse? |
Quote: Hey everybody thanks for looking so here's the deal I'm in high school and I cant talk to girls for shit. I dont know how to make simple conversation or flirt or anything nothing zilch so i just need like a few tips or something im 17 and I've never had a girlfriend that's pretty pathetic
In a nutshell - if you can't hold a conversation, it's highly likely you have nothing in common to talk about with them, which is a frequent occurrence. Here's what might be a slight oversimplification, but it's to make a point:90% of guys are into: violent video games and sports. 90% of girls are into: shopping and drama TV series. You need to either: 1) expand your interests into what the 90% of girls like (probably not) 2) find girls who are into your current interests .. likely all the guy stuff mentioned above (great - but good luck with that, not many of those around) 3) find another interest and find a girl that matches that interest That'll give you the basis of something to converse on plus give you something for the basis of attraction via the likes-attract-likes principle. |
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How can I improve my finesse? |
Your finesse will improve with your experience. If the beginning you have to be willing to get uncomfortable, fail, and get your hands dirty to have the success you want. Approaching women, getting rejected, figuring out what works, having successes etc. How far are you local mall? Go there, do the newbie challenge on the forum. You're still young so theres no need to be hard on yourself, |
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| Author: | Arch Stanton [ Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How can I improve my finesse? |
Quote: Quote: Hey everybody thanks for looking so here's the deal I'm in high school and I cant talk to girls for shit. I dont know how to make simple conversation or flirt or anything nothing zilch so i just need like a few tips or something im 17 and I've never had a girlfriend that's pretty pathetic
In a nutshell - if you can't hold a conversation, it's highly likely you have nothing in common to talk about with them, which is a frequent occurrence. Here's what might be a slight oversimplification, but it's to make a point:90% of guys are into: violent video games and sports. 90% of girls are into: shopping and drama TV series. You need to either: 1) expand your interests into what the 90% of girls like (probably not) 2) find girls who are into your current interests .. likely all the guy stuff mentioned above (great - but good luck with that, not many of those around) 3) find another interest and find a girl that matches that interest That'll give you the basis of something to converse on plus give you something for the basis of attraction via the likes-attract-likes principle. I would advise against this. This is changing yourself to fit a woman, which is beta behavior. A dominant man does what he wants to do, regardless of what others think. A dominant man prioritizes career, fitness, reading, and personal evolution. A woman simply compliments his life. If you are in shape, focused on your goals, and a fun, chill emotionally-centered guy, you will have your pic of women. You will not need to find common ground, because they will be attracted as hell to you, and will change their interests to match yours. This is feminine behavior, to receive. |
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| Author: | Mr. Assertive [ Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How can I improve my finesse? |
Quote: Quote: Quote: Hey everybody thanks for looking so here's the deal I'm in high school and I cant talk to girls for shit. I dont know how to make simple conversation or flirt or anything nothing zilch so i just need like a few tips or something im 17 and I've never had a girlfriend that's pretty pathetic
In a nutshell - if you can't hold a conversation, it's highly likely you have nothing in common to talk about with them, which is a frequent occurrence. Here's what might be a slight oversimplification, but it's to make a point:90% of guys are into: violent video games and sports. 90% of girls are into: shopping and drama TV series. You need to either: 1) expand your interests into what the 90% of girls like (probably not) 2) find girls who are into your current interests .. likely all the guy stuff mentioned above (great - but good luck with that, not many of those around) 3) find another interest and find a girl that matches that interest That'll give you the basis of something to converse on plus give you something for the basis of attraction via the likes-attract-likes principle. I would advise against this. This is changing yourself to fit a woman, which is beta behavior. A dominant man does what he wants to do, regardless of what others think. A dominant man prioritizes career, fitness, reading, and personal evolution. A woman simply compliments his life. If you are in shape, focused on your goals, and a fun, chill emotionally-centered guy, you will have your pic of women. You will not need to find common ground, because they will be attracted as hell to you, and will change their interests to match yours. This is feminine behavior, to receive. |
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