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Author:  ship69 [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  About me - my journey

Hello

I thought I would describe what follows to help you guys see where I am going from.

This is how I work. I am highly driven by ethics. I am here to learn and improve myself. Just because something "works" is not good enough. It also has to be ethical - it has to follow my ethics. Just because everyone else thinks something is not good enough either. All forms of peer-pressure, hounding, online bullying etc are irrelevant. I live by my own ethics not by anyone else's.

This is how I am going to approach this subject. I see this as a step-wise journey. Here are my steps:

1. I need to understand the broad underlying theories. What are the main issues and principles? What works and does not work and what are the ethics involved.

2. Bearing in mind what does / does not work in the pickup universe, I need to decide who it is that am I. What sort of human being am I aspiring to be.

3. I then need to reflect deeply to see how well those theories of map onto my relationships, and see which parts of my personality I need to bring forward and aspects I need to work on.

4. I will then come up with what is probably a patchwork quilt of areas where I am strong and areas where I am need to grow and build further strength. This I need to write down so that the parts of me that will resist such change can not escape it.

5. Then I need to set about putting the theory into practice. Some of this will be "in the field" talk to women, some of this will be fixing up other areas of my life that still need work.

6. When I am then in a meaningful relationship with, some of the above issues such as approach anxiety will become irrelevant. Others will not, and the journey shall continue.

Yes there will be some blurring of course between the steps. But I see this as "a project" with a start middle and end. I shall be living MAINLY in each one of those steps in turn. Right now I am at the start. Step 1

If you are thinking of criticising me for living in my head and not getting out there immediately save your breath - I am not going to change.

Of course if you want to criticise me or my journey go ahead. But this is personal journey and I repeat I am not going to change. I am going to do it my way.

J


PS I am now away for a few days (of partying as it happens). Have a good weekend!

Author:  Arch Stanton [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: About me - my journey

This is incredibly boring, needy, and wishy-washy.

You are the quintissential definition of the "nice guy".

If you do not evolve, you are doomed to a life of jacking off.

Author:  DJ_Z [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: About me - my journey

If you aren't going to change, step aside for those who will.

Author:  itchybrother [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: About me - my journey

PUA isn't for you then. PUA, while mostly sincere and honest, is about finding little nooks and crannies to exploit in one's approach. Sometimes it bends a rule. Sometimes it's outlandish.

Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: About me - my journey

Okay Ship have a good time. Open the door for the ladies.

I'd bet money there is a girl out there, that as soon as she's done fucking her dick-wad jerk of a boyfriend says to him "You should be more like Ship!"

Author:  JackZero [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: About me - my journey

Use the forum search function or get a coach.

You can use the forum search function and get just about every question you have answered while you are learning. That way you can decide if a thread lives up to your "ethics" without having to be an ethical asshole on the forum. Then you can ask questions about techniques that seem ethical to you.

If you get a coach, they'll put up with your bullshit because you are paying them. They'll be more sensitive to your personal needs. That way you don't have to complain like an asshole when people are taking time out to give you free advice because they hurt your feelings.

No one cares about your list of steps. We're not going to change how we give advice because you're only on step 1.

Author:  xopow [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:10 pm ]
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Quote:
Hello

I thought I would describe what follows to help you guys see where I am going from.
This is the Army, you fucking rat, and unless you follow orders from those who know better, you're going end up with nothing but a cum-stained keyboard 10 months from now.

Author:  DJ_Z [ Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: About me - my journey

Quote:
Quote:
Hello

I thought I would describe what follows to help you guys see where I am going from.
This is the Army, you fucking rat, and unless you follow orders from those who know better, you're going end up with nothing but a cum-stained keyboard 10 months from now.
In the forum's collective defense, that was not the immediate reaction lol. I usually don't see the "listen to us or you suck" come up outside of a couple of arrogant posters until a rookie just doesn't want to fucking listen to anything that is in conflict with his life right now. Ship is in his 50s according to another post of his. By 50 if you aren't getting the results you want that should be more than enough time to gather evidence and conclude shit ain't working the old way.

Author:  Arch Stanton [ Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: About me - my journey

I can only imagine how quickly women run from Ship.

"I need to understand"

"I need to reflect"

"I need to set about"

"I need to decide who I am".


It's just endless lack of confidence, pontification, neediness, and circular logic.

Young women into older men look for manly behavior because boys don't do it for them. Yet Ship acts like a child, essentially dooming himself.

Author:  nr32 [ Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:48 am ]
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Ship is a hardcore introvert. Being a bit of an ethicist and an introvert myself, I can see where he's coming from, but Ship sorry to break it to you, you're not gonna get any results from those steps.

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