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Author:  AlexanderTG [ Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:58 am ]
Post subject:  Freeze out question
Basically I'm considering running one on a hb8 to try and generate a bit more spark and investment..
However,
Most of our conversation is on a medium that has notifications about read messages.
So during the allotted freeze out, do i read her messages or not? Im not sure what would have a greater impact? Hwr knowing her words don't phase you or her thinking you don't care enough to read them
Author:  R.C [ Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:10 pm ]
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Are you wanting to do this for a reason?
Author:  AlexanderTG [ Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:01 pm ]
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Are you wanting to do this for a reason?
It's strange actually, got to third base a couple times and she's really responsive in person.

As soon as we're not together, over text is like i'm speaking to a different person. Very distant and "busy"

So I'm thinking of either dropping text game with her altogether, to remove her advantage?

Or just total freeze out?
Author:  R.C [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:26 am ]
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Are you possibly smothering her?
Author:  AlexanderTG [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:19 am ]
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Are you possibly smothering her?
What gives that impression?

Possible though, as every time I attempt to initiate a catch up, she'll deny. She doesn't see me unless it's her idea? Never seen that before?
Author:  R.C [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Freeze out question
If a woman is/was responsive in person but radically different over text, that's probably because your texting is pushing her away.

You're either being smothering, needy or plain boring.
You should probably post a conversation if you want more relevant advice.
Author:  Mr. Assertive [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:36 pm ]
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lol you're gonna be using a freeze out wrong
Author:  neo87 [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:03 pm ]
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Are you wanting to do this for a reason?
It's strange actually, got to third base a couple times and she's really responsive in person.

As soon as we're not together, over text is like i'm speaking to a different person. Very distant and "busy"

So I'm thinking of either dropping text game with her altogether, to remove her advantage?

Or just total freeze out?
Also what is got to third base a couple of times? You may be escalating shitty so on back burner


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Author:  AlexanderTG [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:43 pm ]
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If a woman is/was responsive in person but radically different over text, that's probably because your texting is pushing her away.

You're either being smothering, needy or plain boring.
You should probably post a conversation if you want more relevant advice.
Well it's funny,
The last 2 women I've sarged this has happened with.
1. Withholding sex and 2. Acting with relationship vibes as opposed to I just wanna fuck vibes.
Which to me screams something about provider role, but im not sure how to change that? Like, I'm only being me!... Do I need to be more of an ass?
Author:  JackZero [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:05 pm ]
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If a woman is/was responsive in person but radically different over text, that's probably because your texting is pushing her away.

You're either being smothering, needy or plain boring.
You should probably post a conversation if you want more relevant advice.
Well it's funny,
The last 2 women I've sarged this has happened with.
1. Withholding sex and 2. Acting with relationship vibes as opposed to I just wanna fuck vibes.
Which to me screams something about provider role, but im not sure how to change that? Like, I'm only being me!... Do I need to be more of an ass?
Something is wrong here. A woman that wants a relationship with you will want to have sex with you. Are you sure that they are pushing for a relationship? More importantly, are they trying to push a relationship with you?
Author:  R.C [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:40 pm ]
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What Jack said.

When women start withholding sex, it's not because they want a relationship. It's because they don't want one anymore.
Author:  Finished [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Freeze out question
lol... it wouldn't be you freezing her out, because it sounds like she's already freezing you out a little.

The thing is, when you do this sort of stuff with girls, you want to be doing it because you genuinely have other options and other stuff to do, then when you do text, call or reply to her message, your main aim is to flirt some and get her to come on a date with you.

Depending on where you met her and how often you see her, you might want to flirt some more the next time you're in person and offer a lead there. Or you might just want to offer her on a date through the phone and see what her response is to that.

Either way, you need to try and make a move to the next step if you want to fuck her.

If you're wondering why you couldn't take the escalation further and she parred you off, perhaps you should actually post a report of how you got to third base in the first place and then what went wrong.
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Freeze out question
How many times have the two of you met up?
You got to 3rd, but she stopped you from rounding home plate? Details needed.

Are you sure this isn't just simple LMR?
Author:  AlexanderTG [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Freeze out question
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lol... it wouldn't be you freezing her out, because it sounds like she's already freezing you out a little.

The thing is, when you do this sort of stuff with girls, you want to be doing it because you genuinely have other options and other stuff to do, then when you do text, call or reply to her message, your main aim is to flirt some and get her to come on a date with you.

Depending on where you met her and how often you see her, you might want to flirt some more the next time you're in person and offer a lead there. Or you might just want to offer her on a date through the phone and see what her response is to that.

Either way, you need to try and make a move to the next step if you want to fuck her.

If you're wondering why you couldn't take the escalation further and she parred you off, perhaps you should actually post a report of how you got to third base in the first place and then what went wrong.
Exactly! But I think her freeze out is just as much a tactic as ours.

When she does this (think its been 4 times now) I just go "oh well, on to the next" start following up other leads amd hang with mates and stuff.. Next thing I know she's messaging to catch up.

It's always sexual, either she's telling me how much she wants to fuck or I am. But when the time comes it feels like she's scared? Im not sure I've literally never encountered LMR. First time we caught up was at my place... Majority has been there too. And I'm not sure how I got to third base.. Just kinda happened? Wasn't really over thinking it. She gets strange when I want to transition from couch to bedroom though
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Are you wanting to do this for a reason?
It's strange actually, got to third base a couple times and she's really responsive in person.

As soon as we're not together, over text is like i'm speaking to a different person. Very distant and "busy"

So I'm thinking of either dropping text game with her altogether, to remove her advantage?

Or just total freeze out?
Also what is got to third base a couple of times? You may be escalating shitty so on back burner


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I get the feeling she wants plausible deniability.
She surely paints a picture of the victim of situations like this?
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lol you're gonna be using a freeze out wrong
I know, but every time I have gone NC she comes back! I feel like if I chase, she runs and vice versa. So nothing fruitful is happening.
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If a woman is/was responsive in person but radically different over text, that's probably because your texting is pushing her away.

You're either being smothering, needy or plain boring.
You should probably post a conversation if you want more relevant advice.
Im not sure how? But I think this is the case. It's like she doesn't want to hear from me until she's ready to.
Which is why I was just thinking cutting texting all together. Texting between us is very.. Platonic 70% of the time. But when she does text, its just to 'chat' and that casual chat feels like it pushes me further into a friend zone and kills attraction
Author:  neo87 [ Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Freeze out question
Jeez OP.... be clear and concise. It's just peices of a story you're giving
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