Don't try to befriend an entire group. Befriend one person that is part of the group. When you're accepted by one, they'll get the rest of the group to accept you.

pretty much. And it sounds to me like OP, that you sound try hard. People can usually sniff these people out. Dial back befriending the group and do it one by one. You'll be king of the mountain soon enough.

thanks guys.
today somethinh really weird happened.
the only person i "trust" in the group, note the "" came to talk to me in private, and told me the rest of the group thinks i am strange\weird, and i tried to ask why , and why do they think im weird\strange, he told me i was talking weird shit, and i speak when everyone is speaking and i never say anything that makes sense.
dude wtf? Im scared... Am i a total failure? :\

I notice something tho: IF everyone is talking random weird shit everyone speaks too, but if i talk about the same weird topic they all look at me as if "Look, the retarded spoke -.-" wtf? what am i missing

Are you talking weird shit to just fit in?

no bro, i am joining the conversation.
for example, if they are talking about their favorite foods, i talk about my favorite food and their expression changes , as if i am the retarded kid who cant say anything gets instantly labeled?
This might sound like i am playing victim'ish or whatever, but in truth i want to pinpoint any "weirdnesses" that might exist in me, so i can fix them. Thats why i asked this friend of mine to just be honest and say everything without fear of retaliation cuz i am tall and i can look intimidating sometimes.
in one way i kind of agree with my "friend" here in some points, mostly because i never had too much experience socializing at all, i am just rebuilding myself almost from scratch.
But in another way, sometimes i feel that my friend is exagerating somehow...

How exactly are you hanging out with this group? Like how are you physically around them in the first place?

i walk with them, eat with them, have classes with them...
i am using them as a "lab" so i can improve my social skills in general, of course they dont know it, but thats how i describe it. to be honest they are not really the type of people i would identify myself with in the first place, but thats another reason why i want to hang around with them, so i can be less judgamental (which i tend to be a lot), and learn to adapt to all sorts of people that are not nerd,geek,antisocial, like me

So you're stalking a group of people?

ok, obvious troll detected. -.-

i want to hang around with them, so i can be less judgamental (which i tend to be a lot), and learn to adapt to all sorts of people that are not nerd,geek,antisocial, like me