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| Author: | Johnny Utah [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
I ask this because I met this one waitress at this restaurant. I was at the restaurant eating alone, which is rare in Japan. Since I was eating alone, it maybe was a little taboo and gives people the false impression that I eaither don't like other people or I'm lonely. Both of these are of course false, but I ask because maybe some women like to mess with guys who seem lonely for entertainment? This waitress was taking and serving my order, but she randomely asked me where I was from and when I said California, she said it is really cool and she wants to go there. She said that she needs to improve her English, so I subtly mentioned that I could teach her English and asked her for her contact information. I did it in a way that didn't come off as hitting on her in any way. Since then, she has been acting strange. First she messages me saying she isn't available to meet until October 5th and this was like 3 weeks out from the time she messaged me this? So, October 5th comes around and she messages me that she has a fever and can't meet. Then I tell her alright, how about October 8th at 7pm outside Starbucks and she says she has other plans. Ok, so this is where I felt the need to tell her off. I told her this: You know what I think? I think you didn't have a fever. I think you are a liar haha. I could tell when I first met you that you were this kind of person. Goodbye. Now I know that this is not alpha behavior and I don't care. Women like this really piss me off and they need to be shown somehow that this behavior is not good and they should cut this shit out. I know that almost all the women in the world do this, which is why I don't bother meeting women usually. |
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| Author: | Mr. Assertive [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
Eh, work on your game, no brainer here. No one's gonna side with you on the flakes theory. Flakes are part of the game. Better game= reduced flakes. Stop crying and go train. |
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| Author: | Johnny Utah [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
Quote: Eh, work on your game, no brainer here. No one's gonna side with you on the flakes theory. Flakes are part of the game. Better game= reduced flakes. Stop crying and go train.
I wasn't trying to date this woman. I only wanted to teach her English to make extra money. My point was that women flake in all situations, even outside PUA.How would you have avoided her flaking in this situation then? Let's hear it. |
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| Author: | R.C [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
I don't even know how to respond to this topic. You asked for her number to "teach her english". Yeah right. Even if your intentions were purely to tutor her, it didn't come across like that. And the title is just absurd. |
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| Author: | Autoregressive [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
They flake when: 1) they are not that into you or 2) are just headcases that exhibit erratic behavior. Move on from either one. |
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
Quote: You know what I think? I think you didn't have a fever. I think you are a liar haha. I could tell when I first met you that you were this kind of person. Goodbye. The mere fact that you're investing this much time and energy into one phone number that didn't turn into a date speaks a lot more about you and your options with women than it doesn't about the nature of women. Given how you reacted to the flake, do you think you're someone that she should've gone out with? I mean unless of course, its completely her fault. Had she never flaked you would of been the perfect little angel and she would've just loved you? The more you give attention to the women flaking, the more you will experience women flaking. Let the flakes do what they do, who cares about the ulterior motive behind it. The fact of the matter is, they flaked, its over, and you move on. Discovering their agenda. or calling them out in no way changes the outcome. If you feel disrespected by the flake drop them and move on. If you still want to get with them despite the flake(which I wouldn't recommend) play the game. Reply " Its cool. Feel better. Text me in the morning". There are better ways to channel your frustration - like using it as feel to approach a few more waitresses. Perhaps she was shy, nervous, perhaps she has a boyfriend, perhaps she gave you her number on impulse and instantly regretted it. Perhaps she was really sick. Who cares.. What do you do now? Read: pua-lounge/topic190620.html |
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| Author: | neo87 [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
Lol what the hell man. You're talking about women lying? You get her number on some bs. Either you're a delusional Pua or you're a bad teacher. Because if you wanted to meet to teach her... Guess what... She has no obligation to meet you so she can learn english. You are one pushy salesperson |
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| Author: | anon90210 [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
People will instantly shut down on you if you are unpleasant with them, which is why you probably won't listen to what you've been told here. Also, why this waitress chick is thinking "thank god I didn't go meet him, this dude is a loose cannon." |
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| Author: | n2thevoid [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
Quote: I ask this because I met this one waitress at this restaurant. I was at the restaurant eating alone, which is rare in Japan. Since I was eating alone, it maybe was a little taboo and gives people the false impression that I eaither don't like other people or I'm lonely. Both of these are of course false, but I ask because maybe some women like to mess with guys who seem lonely for entertainment?
This waitress was taking and serving my order, but she randomely asked me where I was from and when I said California, she said it is really cool and she wants to go there. She said that she needs to improve her English, so I subtly mentioned that I could teach her English and asked her for her contact information. I did it in a way that didn't come off as hitting on her in any way. Since then, she has been acting strange. First she messages me saying she isn't available to meet until October 5th and this was like 3 weeks out from the time she messaged me this? So, October 5th comes around and she messages me that she has a fever and can't meet. Then I tell her alright, how about October 8th at 7pm outside Starbucks and she says she has other plans. Ok, so this is where I felt the need to tell her off. I told her this: You know what I think? I think you didn't have a fever. I think you are a liar haha. I could tell when I first met you that you were this kind of person. Goodbye. Now I know that this is not alpha behavior and I don't care. Women like this really piss me off and they need to be shown somehow that this behavior is not good and they should cut this shit out. I know that almost all the women in the world do this, which is why I don't bother meeting women usually. She didn't piss you off, its your diagnoses of what she's doing to you that pissed you off. |
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| Author: | Arch Stanton [ Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
Quote: I ask this because I met this one waitress at this restaurant. I was at the restaurant eating alone, which is rare in Japan. Since I was eating alone, it maybe was a little taboo and gives people the false impression that I eaither don't like other people or I'm lonely.
This is a very insecure mentality.Quote: Since then, she has been acting strange. First she messages me saying she isn't available to meet until October 5th and this was like 3 weeks out from the time she messaged me this?
So? You can't force a woman to like/meet you. your text: "Cool, see you then". Quote:
So, October 5th comes around and she messages me that she has a fever and can't meet. Then I tell her alright, how about October 8th at 7pm outside Starbucks and she says she has other plans.
Your response: "Cool, catch you later". Quote:
Ok, so this is where I felt the need to tell her off. I told her this:
This is the worst thing you can do. With this line, you came off as way too invested, desperate, needy, and creepy.You know what I think? I think you didn't have a fever. I think you are a liar haha. I could tell when I first met you that you were this kind of person. Goodbye. Quote:
Now I know that this is not alpha behavior and I don't care. Women like this really piss me off and they need to be shown somehow that this behavior is not good and they should cut this shit out. I know that almost all the women in the world do this, which is why I don't bother meeting women usually.
I don't even call my girlfriend of 8 months out for flaking. Act like a man who has options, goals, and purpose.
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| Author: | mojo.dojo [ Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
Quote:
You know what I think? I think you didn't have a fever. I think you are a liar haha. I could tell when I first met you that you were this kind of person. Goodbye.
I have another post in General Discussion about a flaky girl and I mentioned perhaps using "I" statements, where you express exactly what you feel without insulting the other person, so you don't have to hold it in, and you don't have to feel guilty afterward.Would this have worked better: "I feel like there is some chance that I am not being treated honestly, here... I am being given a series of excuses, which makes me feel disrespected." What's wrong with this? |
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| Author: | Arch Stanton [ Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
Quote: "I feel like there is some chance that I am not being treated honestly, here... I am being given a series of excuses, which makes me feel disrespected." What's wrong with this? The girl is a stranger. Stranger's come and go without explanation. Calling her out like this is not appropriate and will creep out girls you haven't fucked (and would probably creep out girls you have fucked). Save this for relationships. |
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| Author: | DJ_Z [ Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
It is their nature. You can't get mad at somebody for acting the way you know they are going to act. I once had a date with a girl where she described, in detail, how surprised she was that she actually came out to meet me. She recalled situations where she would give her number to guys, text back and forth and even arrange dates with no intention of ever seeing the guy again. When I asked her why she didn't just say she wasn't interested, her response was that she didn't want to appear rude. It never occurred to her that what she was doing was dishonest, let alone being far more rude than an early rejection would be. Be aware, and act accordingly by making moves to prevent flakes. In other words, go for the fuck that day/night. The phone number is not the goal. |
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| Author: | 7055 [ Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
On pick up forums, members tend to come off as attacking people who ask questions that show they're not particularly experienced. Sometimes they add in additional false assumptions and attack the OP based on those as well. I don't particularly agree with that Women can be frustrating as has happened to you here. You ask a legitimate question which only the person flaking can ever really know the answer to. I don't personally think women do it to be evil/mean. However, I think that sometimes it may be because they are immature and don't know how to let a guy know they're not interested. Other times, the girl may be being honest, but from our perspective it appears like she's just being intentionally flaky. As you improve, women will continue to flake, but you will have more options so it won't matter to you as much. Of course I don't recommend sending a text calling her out, but then, you already know that, i'm sure every member on this forum has done it at some point. Keep your head up, keep working on it and you will get better to the point where flakes are nothing more than something to laugh at. |
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| Author: | Jay (Majik) [ Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Do some women intentionally flake on men to be evil? |
She was being friendly given the circumstances. She knew you were hitting on her. She played along to probably get a better tip. It's part of their job.... if you're gonna hit on a girl, actually just HIT ON HER. |
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