PUA Forum :: What to initially message women or what to say when no reply

I'm currently using Tinder, which I know is mainly just used to stroke womens' egos. I don't want to message women saying they look beautiful or cute because I know that shit doesn't work ever. Every time, they would just reply thanks and were obviously not suddenly interested. I'm curious for those that actually still use Tinder to try to hook up with women...what is an example of a generic, yet effective first message you would send a match?

Also, what do you message women you match with that just ignore you? I'm sure that people are just going to tell me that it is impossible to get women who ignore you to reply, but there must be a way (which I know is different for each woman). There must be some general way that might make a woman be more willing to reply in a positive manner? I know negging sometimes works, because women will often reply to negative messages more than positive ones because they stir up their emotions more. I have no interest in negging women though.I just want to send a followup message that doesn't have negative, desperate asshole written all over it. I'm alright with moving onto other women if others ignore me because there are so many women that use Tinder. I'm just curious what a Tinder user's generic followup message would look like as well?

Author:	Johnny Utah [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:27 pm ]
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I'm currently using Tinder, which I know is mainly just used to stroke womens' egos. I don't want to message women saying they look beautiful or cute because I know that shit doesn't work ever. Every time, they would just reply thanks and were obviously not suddenly interested. I'm curious for those that actually still use Tinder to try to hook up with women...what is an example of a generic, yet effective first message you would send a match? Also, what do you message women you match with that just ignore you? I'm sure that people are just going to tell me that it is impossible to get women who ignore you to reply, but there must be a way (which I know is different for each woman). There must be some general way that might make a woman be more willing to reply in a positive manner? I know negging sometimes works, because women will often reply to negative messages more than positive ones because they stir up their emotions more. I have no interest in negging women though.I just want to send a followup message that doesn't have negative, desperate asshole written all over it. I'm alright with moving onto other women if others ignore me because there are so many women that use Tinder. I'm just curious what a Tinder user's generic followup message would look like as well?

Author:	Jay (Majik) [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:46 pm ]
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Quote: I'm currently using Tinder, which I know is mainly just used to stroke womens' egos. I don't want to message women saying they look beautiful or cute because I know that shit doesn't work ever. Every time, they would just reply thanks and were obviously not suddenly interested. I'm curious for those that actually still use Tinder to try to hook up with women...what is an example of a generic, yet effective first message you would send a match? Also, what do you message women you match with that just ignore you? I'm sure that people are just going to tell me that it is impossible to get women who ignore you to reply, but there must be a way (which I know is different for each woman). There must be some general way that might make a woman be more willing to reply in a positive manner? I know negging sometimes works, because women will often reply to negative messages more than positive ones because they stir up their emotions more. I have no interest in negging women though.I just want to send a followup message that doesn't have negative, desperate asshole written all over it. I'm alright with moving onto other women if others ignore me because there are so many women that use Tinder. I'm just curious what a Tinder user's generic followup message would look like as well? Your problem is that you're giving a compliment and expecting something back in return. What are you expecting her to respond with saying she's beautiful? "OMG! That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me! Take me here and now!" ??? Nah. Doesn't work like that. Give a compliment because you want to make her feel good. Not because you're looking for her to say something back to give you an opportunity to "game her." A 100% honest "God damn, you're the most beautiful thing I've ever seen! What's your name?" will get you way more satisfying results than any PUA bullshit. I'll suggest you get good at flirting with girls in person before you waste a bunch of time on tinder.

Author:	Cross De Lena [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:14 pm ]
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I don't know about other guys here, but I prefer face to face game a lot better than ANY online dating app.

Author:	bartm [ Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:23 am ]
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tinder is useless. you're right, all girls there are looking for validation "Yes! 100 men messaged me. I feel so good about myself now." i also agree that negative comments get the most replies, but those also get your account suspended (lets just say i have first hand experience with this). one time i told a really hot girl (jennifer lopez type ass), "you look like my dog" as my first line. we had a long conversation that we wouldn't have otherwise. to answer your question, the first line should never be about how amazing she looks. I disagree with majikal method. anything about looks raises red flags for them, they put up their guards, whether in real life or tinder. guy: "you look beautiful." girl: "another loser trying to cum inside of me, unmatch" op: i dont have any cookie cutter lines for you but dont make it about looks. anything but looks.

Author:	PUALearning2PUA [ Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:34 am ]
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What about comments side related to looks, like on a dress or necklace in one of their pics?

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Author:	R.C [ Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:00 am ]
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What majik said.

Author:	Eddie Fews [ Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:13 pm ]
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Initial message: " Hey there, you seem semi-normal.. Hows it going? " I haven't tried it, but a guy I work with said its his go to line and he has success with it. As far as follow up messages, some girls ignore because they may matched on accident, or didn't like you message, or they just got so many matches and messages that its almost impossible to get to them all. The follow up message is pretty much a bump to push your message to the top of the list. So don't make it too complicated. Something as simple as " You got that? " should do.

Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:38 pm ]
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Quote: I just want to send a followup message that doesn't have negative, desperate asshole written all over it. "I'm not very savvy at this online dating, but I'd Google all over your Facebook."

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