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Author:  galist [ Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:27 am ]
Post subject:  do you believe in sapiosexual

or like me, you think its airy like a fart?

Author:  Chief [ Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: do you believe in sapiosexual

I think most men who say they're attracted to intelligence in women are full of shit. They're probably just deluding themselves into thinking they're better than other people because they claim to be less shallow or something. Just another way to make themselves feel special when they're not.

That's how I see it because intelligence has never actually turned me on. Yes, it's an admirable quality and everyone should probably strive to make themselves more intelligent every day, but I don't sexualize it. I just don't see anything erotic about it.

That being said, I'm sure there are lots of people out there who are actually aroused by intelligence, both men and women alike. It's a diverse world out there and tons of people have very unique turn-ons. I can never understand foot fetishes.

When it comes to women being attracted to intelligence in men, however, that's a much more complex story.

Author:  n2thevoid [ Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: do you believe in sapiosexual

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I think most men who say they're attracted to intelligence in women are full of shit. They're probably just deluding themselves into thinking they're better than other people because they claim to be less shallow or something. Just another way to make themselves feel special when they're not.

That's how I see it because intelligence has never actually turned me on. Yes, it's an admirable quality and everyone should probably strive to make themselves more intelligent every day, but I don't sexualize it. I just don't see anything erotic about it.

That being said, I'm sure there are lots of people out there who are actually aroused by intelligence, both men and women alike. It's a diverse world out there and tons of people have very unique turn-ons. I can never understand foot fetishes.

When it comes to women being attracted to intelligence in men, however, that's a much more complex story.
Intelligence is one of the more subtle characteristics that gives breath to other attributes we often find attractive.

Having a dry whit, for example (something I find extremely attractive, and yes a 'turn-on') requires intelligence beyond the pal. Even knowing how and when to calibrate to your partner can also, for some, be a turn-on; the anticipating of needs, sexual ones especially come not only with experience but also a level of intuitive as well as cognitive awareness.

Personally I m strongly drawn to a woman who can hold an intelligent conversation and share her insights with me - I value that, and at times find it arousing. Yes, males give a lot more latitude to a hot girl irrespective of her IQ, but in terms of maintaining attraction for me intelligence is imperative (for more distal reasons that I don't want stupid kids), or to feel alone in a relationship knowing i'm with a ditz.

Its also going to factor into the guy's motives for finding a woman. If its for a hookup then I'd imagine intelligence won't factor as much into the equation, if at all. On the other hand, if the intention is LTR then I can see intelligence being a big factor, at least for some guys such as myself (this also extends to my feeling sexually attracted to her, though not exclusive to it).

Author:  nr32 [ Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: do you believe in sapiosexual

How anyone can claim to be sapiosexual is beyond me. They're ostentatious and full of shit. The suffix "-sexual" refers to an orientation. You can be heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, etc., but to say sapiosexual is asinine. You are not sapiosexual insofar as you are not sanctosexual (despite your wildest fantasies for holier than thou nuns) or a scribosexual (despite your "orientation" toward writers). You might prefer your women to be intelligent depending on your values, and it factors into the overall attraction you feel, but it by itself is not a singular factor of attraction.

Author:  galist [ Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: do you believe in sapiosexual

alotta women on ok cupid claim sapio

Author:  JackZero [ Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:27 pm ]
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I love intelligent women. I also love beautiful women. I want to hold conversations with intelligent women. I want to have sex with beautiful women. If a woman is intelligent and beautiful, I'll want to hold conversations with her before or after sex.

Author:  Chief [ Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: do you believe in sapiosexual

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Intelligence is one of the more subtle characteristics that gives breath to other attributes we often find attractive.

Having a dry whit, for example (something I find extremely attractive, and yes a 'turn-on') requires intelligence beyond the pal. Even knowing how and when to calibrate to your partner can also, for some, be a turn-on; the anticipating of needs, sexual ones especially come not only with experience but also a level of intuitive as well as cognitive awareness.

Personally I m strongly drawn to a woman who can hold an intelligent conversation and share her insights with me - I value that, and at times find it arousing.
I get what you're saying and I have no reason to doubt you. You're describing a very nuanced feeling, though, and I don't think most men actually feel this way even if they claim to.
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Yes, males give a lot more latitude to a hot girl irrespective of her IQ, but in terms of maintaining attraction for me intelligence is imperative (for more distal reasons that I don't want stupid kids), or to feel alone in a relationship knowing i'm with a ditz.

Its also going to factor into the guy's motives for finding a woman. If its for a hookup then I'd imagine intelligence won't factor as much into the equation, if at all. On the other hand, if the intention is LTR then I can see intelligence being a big factor, at least for some guys such as myself (this also extends to my feeling sexually attracted to her, though not exclusive to it).
Having more common ground such being able to discuss quantum mechanics together can very likely lead to a more fulfilling relationship, but I'm the type of guy who can pretty much connect with anyone to find what's special about any woman no matter how much of a ditz everyone thinks she is. Intelligence is another subjective thing that everyone has a different version of, and I'm treasure-hunting for the rare gems of beauty that every woman is sure to have.

I can hold an "intelligent" conversation with just about anyone once I find out what makes them tick.

One of the things that bothers me about people assuming intelligence levels is the elitism that comes from it - when they further separate themselves from others by thinking that others are stupider or some shit. It's bullshit. She may not be able to offer an informed opinion about international politics, but can you even begin to understand all of the potential nuanced emotional reactions that could come from coordinating the lipstick color she chose with the rest of her outfit? If you're quick to judge the former topic as vastly superior in importance than the latter, get your head out of your ass (not talking to you, specifically, n2thevoid).

Author:  galist [ Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: do you believe in sapiosexual

some women claim sapio but still only talk to.good looking men.

that's like claiming sapio and choosing stefan urkel over steve urkel

so what im saying is if you want somebody intelligent and good looking, what puts you in special category. whats so unique?

Author:  n2thevoid [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: do you believe in sapiosexual

I think its a silly word to be honest (sapiosexual), i saw it a lot on POF and other dating apps before then i had no clue as to its existence. Feels a bit contrived.

Author:  n2thevoid [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: do you believe in sapiosexual

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Intelligence is one of the more subtle characteristics that gives breath to other attributes we often find attractive.

Having a dry whit, for example (something I find extremely attractive, and yes a 'turn-on') requires intelligence beyond the pal. Even knowing how and when to calibrate to your partner can also, for some, be a turn-on; the anticipating of needs, sexual ones especially come not only with experience but also a level of intuitive as well as cognitive awareness.

Personally I m strongly drawn to a woman who can hold an intelligent conversation and share her insights with me - I value that, and at times find it arousing.
I get what you're saying and I have no reason to doubt you. You're describing a very nuanced feeling, though, and I don't think most men actually feel this way even if they claim to.
Quote:
Yes, males give a lot more latitude to a hot girl irrespective of her IQ, but in terms of maintaining attraction for me intelligence is imperative (for more distal reasons that I don't want stupid kids), or to feel alone in a relationship knowing i'm with a ditz.

Its also going to factor into the guy's motives for finding a woman. If its for a hookup then I'd imagine intelligence won't factor as much into the equation, if at all. On the other hand, if the intention is LTR then I can see intelligence being a big factor, at least for some guys such as myself (this also extends to my feeling sexually attracted to her, though not exclusive to it).
Having more common ground such being able to discuss quantum mechanics together can very likely lead to a more fulfilling relationship, but I'm the type of guy who can pretty much connect with anyone to find what's special about any woman no matter how much of a ditz everyone thinks she is. Intelligence is another subjective thing that everyone has a different version of, and I'm treasure-hunting for the rare gems of beauty that every woman is sure to have.

I can hold an "intelligent" conversation with just about anyone once I find out what makes them tick.

One of the things that bothers me about people assuming intelligence levels is the elitism that comes from it - when they further separate themselves from others by thinking that others are stupider or some shit. It's bullshit. She may not be able to offer an informed opinion about international politics, but can you even begin to understand all of the potential nuanced emotional reactions that could come from coordinating the lipstick color she chose with the rest of her outfit? If you're quick to judge the former topic as vastly superior in importance than the latter, get your head out of your ass (not talking to you, specifically, n2thevoid).
Agreed, and quite honestly I don't sit there thinking about "Oh this made me attracted to her/this didn't" who has time for that nonsense with exception of some of the guys who frequent this board and make threads such as this one.

Author:  galist [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 2:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: do you believe in sapiosexual

they say they're attracted to the intelligence and not the physical, but i'll bet my last dollar they cant tell you what is intelligence.

intelligence im sure comes in more than one form

Author:  DJ_Z [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 3:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: do you believe in sapiosexual

I am attracted to intelligence, but its not a matter of seeing her IQ test and getting a boner.

I enjoy women that I find hot, and I want to have sex with them at a shallow level. However, that sort of encounter is enhanced when I can also have a conversation with a woman. I enjoy sex more when I would want to talk to her after about anything. That's a result of intelligence and several other traits that come together to form a decent person.

Also galist is a loser who gave up on pickup and preaches the big three myths as a result.

Author:  Chief [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: do you believe in sapiosexual

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However, that sort of encounter is enhanced when I can also have a conversation with a woman. I enjoy sex more when I would want to talk to her after about anything. That's a result of intelligence and several other traits that come together to form a decent person.
What you're describing sounds like what sex is supposed to be: an intimate interaction between two human beings. The more human the interaction feels, the more it's actually like good sex. The less human it feels, the more it's just like masturbating into a meat puppet.

I can see how some people use intelligence as a heuristic for having an interaction feel more human. Emotional stuff is a hell of a lot closer to that for me, though. A low IQ won't turn me off, but demonstrating a low EQ will.

Author:  bartm [ Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: do you believe in sapiosexual

pretty much I agree with everyone else.
I think the problem is, the meaning of sapiosexual is misunderstood, or maybe the word is misapplied.
when we say sapiosexual, it doesn't mean "omg this porn star knows the theory of relativity, I am going to jerk off now"
it means we are attracted to people that we have things in common with, and because we have things in common with them, we believe they are intelligent.
hitler would think a woman who wants to burn all jews is intelligent.

Author:  Autoregressive [ Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: do you believe in sapiosexual

I'll go with the flip-side.

A lack of intelligence (by a whole range of definitions) is definitely a total turn-off for me... to the point looks basically become irrelevant, unless I was completely desperate for a one night stand or something of the sort.

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