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Author:  Johnny Utah [ Mon May 16, 2016 7:45 am ]
Post subject:  Woman I will date tonight wants to talk?

There is a woman I posted about a month or so ago that I was trying to meet up with and I thought she didn't show, so I sarged on a random woman outside and she witnessed me talking to this woman and even saw us making out.

Here is the thing. She acted disinterested for the following month or so, but I emailed her telling her to meet up with me tonight. She emailed me this: "I thought last time was the last chance, but tonight is the last chance."

So she is basically still interested and maybe even more interested because she saw me with another woman. I know that shows that I have value to the opposite sex as a man. I still know she is going to want to "have a talk" and probably ask me who that woman was, what we did, why I talked to her, etc.

I mentioned in my email that I know she will want to talk, but that I want to show my interest in her when we spend time together tonight. I did tell her that the place I will take her is romantic, but that I will take it slow with intimacy (she is shy) and she said it is alright and she said "It is alright, I have an imagination."
This seems to make the point that she knows what might go down as it is a date and all.

I still don't want to mess it up with this woman. How do you guys successfully dodge "the talk" bs and get her to drop it and just follow my lead? I know some smooth and confident kino will help, but does anyone have any other advice? I know about resetting the "you are a player" frame to something else, but some women are more stubborn and stick to the interrogation, even if they are attracted.

Author:  dicemaster [ Mon May 16, 2016 8:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Woman I will date tonight wants to talk?

Try to fimd excuse for your fails. You should hav an answer most of the questions. Like you said above, you knoe the unfixed thing, so you stay forward always one step from her. Be prepared, do not make unnecessary argue with her. Be straight. Make manipulation s if it is necessary.

Author:  Johnny Utah [ Mon May 16, 2016 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Woman I will date tonight wants to talk?

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Try to fimd excuse for your fails. You should hav an answer most of the questions. Like you said above, you knoe the unfixed thing, so you stay forward always one step from her. Be prepared, do not make unnecessary argue with her. Be straight. Make manipulation s if it is necessary.
I'm definitely preparing now and prepared for the most part. I will avoid any form of argument, while focusing on building trust, comfort, rapport and I will reset the frame or deflect questions with questions of my own when I need to. She definitely strikes me as the stubborn type, but I could be wrong.

Author:  dicemaster [ Mon May 16, 2016 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Woman I will date tonight wants to talk?

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Try to fimd excuse for your fails. You should hav an answer most of the questions. Like you said above, you knoe the unfixed thing, so you stay forward always one step from her. Be prepared, do not make unnecessary argue with her. Be straight. Make manipulation s if it is necessary.
I'm definitely preparing now and prepared for the most part. I will avoid any form of argument, while focusing on building trust, comfort, rapport and I will reset the frame or deflect questions with questions of my own when I need to. She definitely strikes me as the stubborn type, but I could be wrong.
So you are the n the right track. Use classic you are/were more special than anyone in my life bs. Say i found out after you how special you were. Try to avoid needy words. They like to bite it.

Author:  Johnny Utah [ Mon May 16, 2016 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Woman I will date tonight wants to talk?

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Try to fimd excuse for your fails. You should hav an answer most of the questions. Like you said above, you knoe the unfixed thing, so you stay forward always one step from her. Be prepared, do not make unnecessary argue with her. Be straight. Make manipulation s if it is necessary.
I'm definitely preparing now and prepared for the most part. I will avoid any form of argument, while focusing on building trust, comfort, rapport and I will reset the frame or deflect questions with questions of my own when I need to. She definitely strikes me as the stubborn type, but I could be wrong.
So you are the n the right track. Use classic you are/were more special than anyone in my life bs. Say i found out after you how special you were. Try to avoid needy words. They like to bite it.
Well, she was determined to talk and she still can't trust me. She says I'm a playboy, which I saw coming miles away. I kept trying to reset the frame to lighter conversation and I tried warming her up by telling her things like she makes me feel something special, something about her, etc. without sounding needy, only confident.

She actually even didn't like any of the subtle kino I pulled on her. She is really shy and seemed too overly defensive.

She ended up feeding me the famous "I need time to think" line with regard to meeting up again.

She did give me a chance to meet her again after she witnessed me making out with another woman, which is open minded, but why is she clamming up now?

It is even more confusing because she told me that she felt sad and down about love when she saw me with the other woman, yet kept me at arm's length tonight?

Author:  dicemaster [ Mon May 16, 2016 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Woman I will date tonight wants to talk?

You do not fly under the radar that s because. I just figured out, it is also mistake that i did. It repels relation materials. Say her she helped you to figure out that you made mistake after you make out with this chick, because you understood nothing can fill the blank the place where the real feeling should stand for. So you understood that was a mistake cuz you feel something different to her.
and also say you can make once a mistake, what make you actually everybody can do, but if you repeat it is stupidity and you are not a stupid person who wants to lose her.

Of course everything is bs here, but i think she will bite the bait.

Author:  Johnny Utah [ Tue May 17, 2016 2:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Woman I will date tonight wants to talk?

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You do not fly under the radar that s because. I just figured out, it is also mistake that i did. It repels relation materials. Say her she helped you to figure out that you made mistake after you make out with this chick, because you understood nothing can fill the blank the place where the real feeling should stand for. So you understood that was a mistake cuz you feel something different to her.
and also say you can make once a mistake, what make you actually everybody can do, but if you repeat it is stupidity and you are not a stupid person who wants to lose her.

Of course everything is bs here, but i think she will bite the bait.
I don't waste time with indecisive women like this. I just emailed her saying I'm a man and that men don't wait for a woman to say yes or no. I told her I like her and that I'm giving her an opportunity. The ball is in her court now.

Author:  Eddie Fews [ Tue May 17, 2016 5:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Woman I will date tonight wants to talk?

How are you having "the talk" with women when you're currently married to someone else? Doesn't sound like you're making your intentions clear enough.

Is this the woman that knows you're married or no?

If yes.. Eventually you're going to have to turn them loose. Sex friends don't stay sex friends forever.

Author:  Johnny Utah [ Thu May 19, 2016 4:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Woman I will date tonight wants to talk?

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How are you having "the talk" with women when you're currently married to someone else? Doesn't sound like you're making your intentions clear enough.

Is this the woman that knows you're married or no?

If yes.. Eventually you're going to have to turn them loose. Sex friends don't stay sex friends forever.
Yes, this woman knows I'm married and I made my intentions clear...almost too clear I guess. My wife and I have an open relationship, so that isn't an issue either. I should have mentioned this in my previous posts, so I apologize for that.

I think this woman is just too innocent because she was tripping even when I put my arm around her. I made sure to talk with her and do more subtle forms of kino (shoulder, hand touching) and talked with her for a while before trying to get more comfortable, but she just didn't seem to loosen up. She would hardly make eye contact with me, but I know that is a big part of Japanese culture. People that are not in love, don't really make eye contact. She also told me she is really shy when I asked why she doesn't look at me while talking.

Long story short, I have already moved on. A woman that can't even loosen up at all isn't worth my time. If she emails me again, I will probably flake on her.

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