PUA Forum :: Who's playing the game?

I just don't understand this. So I need to have a game, but I need not to think too much about the game, right? Because I wanna be a top player guys, and in order do that I must be 100% focused on working my ass off! I say this cause I was doing well when I was younger, at some point I had a natural game working on but then something changed and lost my natural way of doing it. Like somebody came in and stole it from me. So I need to steal back the game, just like they stole my natural game. Here's why I gotta be a top player, but it's like I can't do it if I don't put too much on it... but you're also right, I can't over think like I can't over drink.

IOI is outdated man.

What we're about is assuming attraction and then going to find out whether or not the attraction is there. Guys that think women find them unattractive behave in an insecure manner around women. So the woman could've found them attractive but the guys over questioning of himself can become a complete turn off.

Replace you IOI's with AA's.. Assuming she's already interested an go approach. You ever thought a girl was "average" but after having a conversation with her you found her much more attractive than you did prior? The same happens with women, but even more so. They're more willing to consider the insides than we are. A confident/playful attitude can alter perception.

A confident/playful attitude can alter perception.

Author:	Billions94 [ Sat May 07, 2016 9:45 am ]
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Just a simple question: if she wants to make contact and after that she asks for a high five, is that a repeated IOI? I know it's strange but, what if she's playing the game on me?

Author:	GenesisPUA [ Sat May 07, 2016 12:04 pm ]
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Stop over thinking this OP. Just get along and close the deal.

Author:	Billions94 [ Sat May 07, 2016 12:13 pm ]
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So basically I must get out of my mind, right?

Author:	Dragula [ Sat May 07, 2016 12:46 pm ]
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You're like a gremlin Please remove 'Game' from your brain and just be frigging normal

Author:	GenesisPUA [ Sat May 07, 2016 12:49 pm ]
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Yes you must get out of your head, be present and have fun. When one is starting out on this journey, they tend to over analyze everything during or after an interaction which can fuck up your game very much. It's okay to analyze a few things to know what you did right or wrong, what worked and what did not but over thinking things is bad. So is over drinking, over eating, over working and etc.

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Author:	Billions94 [ Sat May 07, 2016 1:18 pm ]
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I just don't understand this. So I need to have a game, but I need not to think too much about the game, right? Because I wanna be a top player guys, and in order do that I must be 100% focused on working my ass off! I say this cause I was doing well when I was younger, at some point I had a natural game working on but then something changed and lost my natural way of doing it. Like somebody came in and stole it from me. So I need to steal back the game, just like they stole my natural game. Here's why I gotta be a top player, but it's like I can't do it if I don't put too much on it... but you're also right, I can't over think like I can't over drink.

Author:	Dragula [ Sat May 07, 2016 1:58 pm ]
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Quote: I just don't understand this. So I need to have a game, but I need not to think too much about the game, right? Because I wanna be a top player guys, and in order do that I must be 100% focused on working my ass off! I say this cause I was doing well when I was younger, at some point I had a natural game working on but then something changed and lost my natural way of doing it. Like somebody came in and stole it from me. So I need to steal back the game, just like they stole my natural game. Here's why I gotta be a top player, but it's like I can't do it if I don't put too much on it... but you're also right, I can't over think like I can't over drink. I think for me..'game' is pretty much not making the major attraction blunders that normal people make. Such as needy stuff like...sending 6 texts in a row or qualifying themselves too much, or not leading, or not physically escalating, LMR etc etc....hope you get it I would focus on the things that you shouldn't do and work on your physical appearance and leading an epic ambitious lifestyle Thinking about openers and push pull tactics will do more harm than good for you at your current stage, worry about that crap when you get some consistency The 3 things you prioritise in my opinion is: - Looks - Approaching - Making the move (The last 2 require most anxiety because they are the hardest and most crucial thing for you to master but also the most essential) So with those 3 things, whilst having a cool life will reward you with above average results with the ladies IMO

Author:	R.C [ Mon May 09, 2016 8:21 am ]
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Yep. "Game" is a lot about what not to do these days.

Author:	Eddie Fews [ Tue May 10, 2016 6:31 pm ]
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IOI is outdated man. What we're about is assuming attraction and then going to find out whether or not the attraction is there. Guys that think women find them unattractive behave in an insecure manner around women. So the woman could've found them attractive but the guys over questioning of himself can become a complete turn off. Replace you IOI's with AA's.. Assuming she's already interested an go approach. You ever thought a girl was "average" but after having a conversation with her you found her much more attractive than you did prior? The same happens with women, but even more so. They're more willing to consider the insides than we are. A confident/playful attitude can alter perception.

Author:	n2thevoid [ Tue May 10, 2016 7:14 pm ]
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Quote: IOI is outdated man. What we're about is assuming attraction and then going to find out whether or not the attraction is there. Guys that think women find them unattractive behave in an insecure manner around women. So the woman could've found them attractive but the guys over questioning of himself can become a complete turn off. Replace you IOI's with AA's.. Assuming she's already interested an go approach. You ever thought a girl was "average" but after having a conversation with her you found her much more attractive than you did prior? The same happens with women, but even more so. They're more willing to consider the insides than we are. A confident/playful attitude can alter perception. Yes.

Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Tue May 10, 2016 8:00 pm ]
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Quote: A confident/playful attitude can alter perception. As can Tequila.

Author:	dicemaster [ Tue May 10, 2016 8:30 pm ]
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Quote: IOI is outdated man. What we're about is assuming attraction and then going to find out whether or not the attraction is there. Guys that think women find them unattractive behave in an insecure manner around women. So the woman could've found them attractive but the guys over questioning of himself can become a complete turn off. Replace you IOI's with AA's.. Assuming she's already interested an go approach. You ever thought a girl was "average" but after having a conversation with her you found her much more attractive than you did prior? The same happens with women, but even more so. They're more willing to consider the insides than we are. A confident/playful attitude can alter perception. Nope. I believe IOIs are pretty usefull for knowing the temperature. It is reading her body language. I think most of the people who says x is outdated wants to mean as subliminally we are the new generation. But let me tell ya something guys except text and/or internet apps gaming even mystery method is actual.

Author:	Finished [ Tue May 10, 2016 8:53 pm ]
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Hi 5's are not IOI's. I really don't understand why so many guys go around hi fiving girls and trying to put a big smile on their face as they prance around like clowns. You just don't interact with girls in this way. The hi 5 says "we're friends" or "lets be friends". The way you can test if she's into you through a high five type move is to keep a hold of her hand when they connect and keep hold of it as you bring it down and give it a slight tug and hold on until she starts to pull away slightly before you let go. If she gives you sexy eye contact or does anything playful back as you're doing this then you've just heightened a little attraction and you can bet she's feeling a little into you. This can also be used to bring her in to a kiss position as you let go of her hand, then put it around her waist and move in to her lips if you already feel enough attraction is there to go for that. Hold it for a few moments to create more tension, then connect the kiss as you take her body completely. IOI's are not outdated. Gauging IOI's can be very useful. Especially in calibrating your approach. What a stupid comment.

Author:	n2thevoid [ Tue May 10, 2016 9:06 pm ]
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hi^5 is only an IOI if your dick is Hi^5 her pussy before slipping in

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Author:	dicemaster [ Tue May 10, 2016 9:12 pm ]
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High 5 could be use anyways like after you hit you can her hand and create sexual tension or you can use it a way through escalating kinos or it is basicly a way to say i wont harm you even if i touch(subliminally). It creates also comfort and connection between you too. I think also high 5s are good, if you know how to escalate.