girl on dating app. freaking hot. She has a jennifer lopez ass. I am sure she gets 100 messages a day.

Honestly, I am thinking of giving up the online thing at this point because I am frustrated. I've had zero success. is it possible to get laid online with a semi-attractive girl? yes. Is it worth the time and effort? I think not. I think out of 1000 girls, maybe one is serious. the rest are just playing around or they will get cold feet and never meet you.

but I was wondering if you could critique my messages. maybe I am doing something wrong. The blue is me, the red is her:



That's it.

neo, I know I need to find some activities like improv, boxing. I am not going to give you the lame excuse of not having "a chance" or "the time" to do it. I just didn't feel like looking around.

I just didn't feel like looking around.

I wish I could find strong enough words to express how much I hate this.

That right there is your problem. You don't give a shit about things that actually matter. You come on these forums to vent your frustration, but you don't do anything that will actually change your life and give you a solid foundation in which you can become non-needy and more socially / emotionally fulfilled. Life is more than women. Relationships are one part -- not the whole. Don't fake your business card, actually BECOME the man you're describing. I'm not going to repeat the solid advice that others have repeatedly given you.

About your messages.. "You look like my dog?" What the fuck? I'm not big on texting, but something tells me that calling her a bitch isn't the right way to start a conversation. Maybe it'll work on some (insecure) people, but a confident woman will see right through that attention-seeking shit.

I a weird way, that whole thing was working.

Your not giving a shit, made you non outcome dependent. It caused boldness.

REFINE IT! She was feeding you clues.

This is your niche. Do it again. Post it.

Hey man,
You're right, I don't want to pretend to be non-needy, I want to BE non-needy. and you're right about being socially/emotionally fulfilled. I have felt this very phenomenon before, some days I am socially and emotionally fulfilled in other ways and pick-up seems so much easier.

I know the first line is no good. I am stupid but not that stupid.
But I am not going to invest my time coming up with the perfect line because let's face it, they won't respond anyway. How do I minimize my investment? I just say the first thing that comes to my mind. that's the first thing that came to my mind when I saw her pictures. I have no idea why, I don't even have a dog.

Yeah I kinda likes how this was going. I agree that could have gone a little sexual at points but that's not a huge issue.

The real question is, and sounds like a common theme with you, is where is any of your online game going? There's a saying... "Begin with the end in mind." Just exchanging a few witty lines and a little push-pull is gonna fizzle out quick unless you're taking it somewhere. What are you wanting? A friend? A pen pal? A number? A date? Gotta look at WHY you're messaging 1000 women online. Do you have a clear plan? Get focused on what you want out of your efforts, then direct your efforts in a way that accomishes your goal. You want a number? Ask! You wanna get sex? Be sexual! If you just chat up girls with no plan, you'll have hundreds of conversations that just dry up. Like you said, girls get tons of messages all the time. Guys do just like you did then it doesn't go anywhere. What are you expecting to happen? You throw out a few negs do a little flirt and expect her to say "wow you're amazing I'm yours"? Women want you to direct the action, whether its texting, on a date, or between the sheets. If you aren't sure where you're driving the conversation to, you can be sure its not going anywhere.