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| Author: | CialdrinD [ Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | How to convey Value? |
So imagine you're in a set, you opened. What are the most effective ways to qualify a girl and convey more value? What are some of things you can do to improve on game? Night game or day game? |
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| Author: | n2thevoid [ Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
How to convey value? By valuing yourself. |
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| Author: | CialdrinD [ Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
I understand that. But you need to convey them or maybe even better be them and tell a story in that frame. But how? If I 7-8, how can one be/convey to be 10? Sometimes, even if im telling some amazing stories about my life, most passionate things, I can't get them excited or as responsive as they could be. I mean they will listen to intently, laugh and enjoy them and will get quite and won't talk in response. What am i missing there? |
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| Author: | n2thevoid [ Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
Quote: I understand that.
I disagree with expressing value as a "need". The way I understand you're using the word "value" is to obtain some sort of extrinsic reward (e.g., attention and approval from women), and I am saying that isn't value at all, but rather trying to win the approval of others.
But you need to convey them or maybe even better be them and tell a story in that frame. But how? If I 7-8, how can one be/convey to be 10? Sometimes, even if im telling some amazing stories about my life, most passionate things, I can't get them excited or as responsive as they could be. I mean they will listen to intently, laugh and enjoy them and will get quite and won't talk in response. What am i missing there? |
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| Author: | Cross De Lena [ Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
You're putting women on pedestal even before you start interacting with one. That's bad, she should be the one qualifying for you, not the other way around. Just have normal conversations with her, SHUT UP and listen to her, respond to her, your goal is not to make her laugh, it's to fuck her. And you're overthinking, start building better life. Valuable guy doesn't need to worry about how to convey Value, he doesn't talk that way. Same as rich people don't talk how rich they are, it can be seen, confident guys don't talk about how confident they are. Get a life first and enjoy it. Validation will come along. |
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| Author: | chrisnos [ Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
Basically, let her know you don’t give a fuck what her or anyone else thinks. Imagine that you had six girlfriends waiting to flock you back home, and you were just walking up to this girl to talk to her because you found her hot? At this point, what would you say, and what would you do. Imagine how your body language would look. Then just approach women and do that, be your real self, and be on ashamed or unafraid of who you are—be a real alpha male and she’ll be attracted to you. It’s called nature, it’s been around for millions of years lol. |
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| Author: | CialdrinD [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
Thanks Guys! I have a follow up question, how do raise your level? Level in game, standards in life. Like, you're on a journey from, let's say you start 5 and now you've reached 7. How do you growing up, raising your standards, learn faster? |
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| Author: | R.C [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
By not slacking. I don't have to tell you how to improve your life. You already know what you are/aren't pleased with. So take that which you aren't, and start working. |
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| Author: | dicemaster [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
what i observed is after some points the will afraid if u r too much for chicks. I keep dhv short and conveying value less. Dunno but i think, chicks might have tought that you are lying. From my perspective.. |
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| Author: | Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
Quote: what i observed is after some points the will afraid if u r too much for chicks. I keep dhv short and conveying value less. Dunno but i think, chicks might have tought that you are lying. From my perspective..
The failed acorn reforms the invited adjective. The medieval editorial qualifies a jargon.From my perspective. |
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| Author: | Jay (Majik) [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
The way you carry yourself is what conveys value more than anything else. Body language. Other than that, the tone of your voice and way you speak is probably the second best way. Then I'd say your physical appearance. The way you dress. Your style. Which has so much room to play with... Look at someone like Rob Zombie... Looks like a homeless person but still glows with status. Value definitely comes from within. It's really hard to stand like a man who means something if you feel like a piece of shit on the inside. I've been treated like a celebrity when I didn't even have a checking account. What other people think of you and how they treat you comes from how you feel about yourself. |
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| Author: | dicemaster [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
Quote: Quote: what i observed is after some points the will afraid if u r too much for chicks. I keep dhv short and conveying value less. Dunno but i think, chicks might have tought that you are lying. From my perspective..
The failed acorn reforms the invited adjective. The medieval editorial qualifies a jargon.From my perspective. Hey, Wood Ja, Blow Me. |
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
Value isn't something you convey, its something thats projected from the inside first, and then it naturally relays on the outside. So in essence, you convey value by genuinely becoming valuable. A mans value is largely determined by "what he thinks of himself". A high position can only give you value in the environments in which that position is known, recognized, and while surrounded by people with a lower position. Although, that is all thrown out the window once you exit that environment. And high quality women aren't going to give a damn. The mere fact that you asked this question shows that you a bit of a ways to go when it comes to developing character thats actually recognized as valuable. You can start by toughing your skin. You live in New York like me; their are plenty of women to go approach. Get started. After your first 2,000, you won't even have to ask another question like this. |
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| Author: | CialdrinD [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
@Eddie Fews: I have no shame in admitting that I have a way to go, a long one. My question is how to learn faster? How to take enough action? What bothers me in that I don't take enough action or i think I don't. Because once you get to know about game, you have to take action. There is always something that seems that could be better. I mean i'm obviously doing better than I was couple of months ago. But how do it faster? Btw, All valid points here. And I will incorporate them in my game and thinking. Thanks guys! |
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to convey Value? |
Quote: @Eddie Fews:
I live in New York City.I have no shame in admitting that I have a way to go, a long one. My question is how to learn faster? You want someone to push you? Hit me up. |
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