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Author:  Orcinus [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Question about Friend Zone and congruency

Hi, I had a story with a 18 year old girl. I am 33. Full story on form - I had only one tread so far on forum She friend zoned me and now is trying to keep contact with me. The most advice I get about Let Be Just Friends is: leave her alone, play hard to get, maybe she will come crying and begging. Cool, I tried this with some girls before - it makes girls insecure, but it is only half way to success. Now the question: Is cutting any contact with her, as advised mostly, not destroying my chances to learn something about game and girls by - instead of keeping the steady contact on my terms. So, she told me let us be friends (no benefits). My answer: Cool! Relax girl. I really get that as Todd is telling: "play to win and not play to loose her" is the key here. I get that it might work only if I do not care about her - and does not give a fuck if she fucks other boys. Let me know if actually abandoning her after 10 days of knowing her is very passive way to prepare for success. Not to mention, that it might convey an hurt animal - and that is week and unattractive. Sure, I can be cold to her, never write any message as the first, answering only some messages and with days of delay. But, as I said I am starting to feel that it is very passive way to learn and prepare for success. If I understand it correctly the congruence of myself, treating myself as a catch for her - no way around - conveying that I am a value to her and not she to me - requires maintaining at least some amount of contact. I can only learn if I stay in contact. Being in contact with her and doing my stuff - gaming other girls - will not hurt me but only raise my chances to be more experienced. To get her, I cannot be the person in the first place, she decided to put into friend zone. I am asking myself, if not keeping the contact, by for example asking her for some lessons in Italian per SPAM, would raise my chances to show her that I have a life even without her by my side, or rather any chance to be with her. Sure there is risk, that it will burn the chances totally, but so be it. It might be better than playing cold, but trembling for her first call. Once again, I get that it might be of help ONLY if I will game other girls. Period Let me know

Author:  JackZero [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Question about Friend Zone and congruency

When a girl says, let's just be friends...do just that or cut her off completely. DO NOT pursue her. Don't do things so that she'll see you in a different light. Do things that make you attractive for other women.

At this point, you're reading this as a "move on" type of response. It is and in a way it isn't. The byproduct of moving on in a confident way often leads to the one girl coming back at some point. It could be because she sees you enjoying life without her and she wants in on it, it could be jealousy of other women, or it could be her remembering your positive qualities. Whatever it is, moving on and accepting that she doesn't want you right now is way more attractive than trying to be in her life and doing the annoying things, that women easily spot, to try to get her back.

Author:  R.C [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Question about Friend Zone and congruency

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When a girl says, let's just be friends...do just that or cut her off completely. DO NOT pursue her. Don't do things so that she'll see you in a different light. Do things that make you attractive for other women.

At this point, you're reading this as a "move on" type of response. It is and in a way it isn't. The byproduct of moving on in a confident way often leads to the one girl coming back at some point. It could be because she sees you enjoying life without her and she wants in on it, it could be jealousy of other women, or it could be her remembering your positive qualities. Whatever it is, moving on and accepting that she doesn't want you right now is way more attractive than trying to be in her life and doing the annoying things, that women easily spot, to try to get her back.
THis.

Author:  Orcinus [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Question about Friend Zone and congruency

Cool. That is the thing. I move on - she is free to amend her decisions, if she will be quick enough...

My original post was here general-questions/friend-zone-ljbf-vt195785.html

Author:  JackZero [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Question about Friend Zone and congruency

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Cool. That is the thing. I move on - she is free to amend her decisions, if she will be quick enough...

My original post was here general-questions/friend-zone-ljbf-vt195785.html
Read it. Doesn't change my opinion on how to go about things from your end. In all honesty, I don't understand why you are saying she can amend her decisions, but adding the caveat of her needing to be quick. If you were really okay with it, you'd just go live your life and if she shows up you can decide what to do at that moment. The fact that you wrote two posts on this specific girl doesn't show that you are ready to let it go.

Author:  Orcinus [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Question about Friend Zone and congruency

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Cool. That is the thing. I move on - she is free to amend her decisions, if she will be quick enough...

My original post was here general-questions/friend-zone-ljbf-vt195785.html
Read it. Doesn't change my opinion on how to go about things from your end. In all honesty, I don't understand why you are saying she can amend her decisions, but adding the caveat of her needing to be quick. If you were really okay with it, you'd just go live your life and if she shows up you can decide what to do at that moment. The fact that you wrote two posts on this specific girl doesn't show that you are ready to let it go.

Fuck, you are right...

Author:  ChocolatePUA [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Question about Friend Zone and congruency

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Hi, I had a story with a 18 year old girl. I am 33. Full story on form - I had only one tread so far on forum She friend zoned me and now is trying to keep contact with me. The most advice I get about Let Be Just Friends is: leave her alone, play hard to get, maybe she will come crying and begging. Cool, I tried this with some girls before - it makes girls insecure, but it is only half way to success. Now the question: Is cutting any contact with her, as advised mostly, not destroying my chances to learn something about game and girls by - instead of keeping the steady contact on my terms. So, she told me let us be friends (no benefits). My answer: Cool! Relax girl. I really get that as Todd is telling: "play to win and not play to loose her" is the key here. I get that it might work only if I do not care about her - and does not give a fuck if she fucks other boys. Let me know if actually abandoning her after 10 days of knowing her is very passive way to prepare for success. Not to mention, that it might convey an hurt animal - and that is week and unattractive. Sure, I can be cold to her, never write any message as the first, answering only some messages and with days of delay. But, as I said I am starting to feel that it is very passive way to learn and prepare for success. If I understand it correctly the congruence of myself, treating myself as a catch for her - no way around - conveying that I am a value to her and not she to me - requires maintaining at least some amount of contact. I can only learn if I stay in contact. Being in contact with her and doing my stuff - gaming other girls - will not hurt me but only raise my chances to be more experienced. To get her, I cannot be the person in the first place, she decided to put into friend zone. I am asking myself, if not keeping the contact, by for example asking her for some lessons in Italian per SPAM, would raise my chances to show her that I have a life even without her by my side, or rather any chance to be with her. Sure there is risk, that it will burn the chances totally, but so be it. It might be better than playing cold, but trembling for her first call. Once again, I get that it might be of help ONLY if I will game other girls. Period Let me know
I read your other thread.

She lives 1300 miles away, in a different country, has told you that she prefers to just be friends, said that she does not want to be in a relationship, and directly told you that she has no interest in being with you.

Take it as a good springtime fling that lasted just as long as it was supposed to last, and PLEASE move on. There is no reason whatsoever to continue pursuing this girl. Your efforts would be much better placed spending your time with girls who are more accessible, and you would learn a LOT more from doing so than to continue to pursue an obvious dead end.

Author:  R.C [ Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Question about Friend Zone and congruency

Even Jennifer Lawrence would have a hard time convincing me to book a flight 1300 miles away to see her. What the hell man? Why would an 18 year old ever settle for such a ridiculous LDR when she's barely discovering her sexuality?

Furthermore, why the hell would you settle for that?



























I'm totally lying btw. I'd definitely book a flight for J Law.

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