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Author:  AegonTC [ Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:00 am ]
Post subject:  Frame not consistent with HQ girls
Hi guys,

As I write there's this girl from work (Roughly a 7) texting me about how crazy she is about me (Haven't done anything special for that), she's 27, has a kid and is apparently divorced.

But last night out I tried hitting on an 8, Lawyer, single, wealthy and also 27. Well the thing is I couldn't pull it off, I got her number and a Kiss after she said goobye, but then she appeared with another guy I know and started dancing.

I need some advice on how to keep my frame consistent all the time, because obviosly the latter girl (which I texted something lame that same night) just dismissed me with a Kiss.

I'm 24 but look older, maybe 28. Whenever I see a girl I do like a lot I start fucking things Up.
Author:  JackZero [ Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:56 am ]
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If your frame changes because you value a girl, it's more about you not believing in your own value. Fix whatever it is about you that is causing that insecurity.
Author:  oceanx [ Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:51 pm ]
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From what I can tell you're not getting enough volume in. If you're hitting the game hard, you won't even remember these interactions.
Author:  ChocolatePUA [ Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:47 pm ]
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Hi guys,

As I write there's this girl from work (Roughly a 7) texting me about how crazy she is about me (Haven't done anything special for that), she's 27, has a kid and is apparently divorced.

But last night out I tried hitting on an 8, Lawyer, single, wealthy and also 27. Well the thing is I couldn't pull it off, I got her number and a Kiss after she said goobye, but then she appeared with another guy I know and started dancing.

I need some advice on how to keep my frame consistent all the time, because obviosly the latter girl (which I texted something lame that same night) just dismissed me with a Kiss.

I'm 24 but look older, maybe 28. Whenever I see a girl I do like a lot I start fucking things Up.
What OceanX said. It sounds like you only have had a handful of recent interactions with women. Up your numbers. Keep practicing. Try to maintain your frame. You'll have a much better idea of what you're doing wrong and how to fix it then, and whether it's a frame issue at all.

But what Jack said is also important - it sounds like you simply don't think you have enough value.
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:54 pm ]
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Self worth man.

Women are going to act the way you treat them. You treat them as above you, because they're a lawyer, and they will treat you like you're beneath them. Biologically you are not hardwired to be attracted to a woman because of her ability to provide so you should never let a womans career disrupt your frame. He looks weren't chosen by her, she was given them at birth so you can rule that one out as well.

The more you value yourself, the more the women around you will value you.
Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:18 pm ]
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It'll come with age man. I remember having a similar problem to this a few years ago (I'm almost 28 now) and now that I've really "fallen into my place" as a man, my frame stays consistent.

Not putting you down, but right now you're stuck in between that awkward phase of being a teenage little boy who thinks he's tough and being the calm, cool collected man who everyone knows is tough.

Keep doing what you're doing man and it will come with time.
Author:  AegonTC [ Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:53 pm ]
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Well thanks for the advice Bros. But I need to update the thread. The uglier chick went haywire and wrote a shut load of stuff last night while I was sleeping. It seems she hates me now and she does my taxes at the company, how could I keep things casual ??
Author:  ElijahGuru [ Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:28 am ]
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Self worth man.

Women are going to act the way you treat them. You treat them as above you, because they're a lawyer, and they will treat you like you're beneath them. Biologically you are not hardwired to be attracted to a woman because of her ability to provide so you should never let a womans career disrupt your frame. He looks weren't chosen by her, she was given them at birth so you can rule that one out as well.

The more you value yourself, the more the women around you will value you.

I agree with you here Eddie, usually when when we interact with people with what we perceive to be higher value than us, we tend to get intimidated. Our dominant and attractive frame can often develop into a submissive and unattractive one. The key here, like you said, is not to be intimidated by someone's position in society. Sure that chick is a hot lawyer and probably makes more money than you, but the way she sees herself may be along the lines of "I'm not good enough, and I wish I was making more money". The way you should see her should be along the lines of "Hmm she's beautiful, makes a lot of money, but what else can I find out about her? is this a girl I would like?"

Define your approach mentality (frame) and keep it. Don't look at the girl's resume, be the interviewer who wants to find out more about her personality.
Author:  dtrak [ Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:02 pm ]
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To keep a consistant frame you must evolve your game from a basic foundation of confidence, one you can hold steady and expand throughout your life.

Not false pretensions.

Start from the beginning.

Strip down all the bullshit and create a new you, a better you.

Someone you can count on for the rest of your days here on earth.

tic toc ;)

Edit: Forgot to mention, you must LET GO of everything you have now and be free.
From this freedom comes INFITINE SEX and ABUNDANCE(Self fulfilling happiness that in turn brings results, sex,money,happiness).
Attachment is the cause of most of our headaches.

let that sink in.
Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:35 pm ]
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To keep a consistant frame you must evolve your game from a basic foundation of confidence, one you can hold steady and expand throughout your life.

Not false pretensions.

Start from the beginning.

Strip down all the bullshit and create a new you, a better you.

Someone you can count on for the rest of your days here on earth.

tic toc ;)

Edit: Forgot to mention, you must LET GO of everything you have now and be free.
From this freedom comes INFITINE SEX and ABUNDANCE(Self fulfilling happiness that in turn brings results, sex,money,happiness).
Attachment is the cause of most of our headaches.

let that sink in.

Could you give ANY more "heady" advice? Shit man... Talk about straight mental masturbation. What the fuck did you even say here guy? And I though I did a lot of drugs............
Author:  Dragula [ Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:48 pm ]
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Author:  ChocolatePUA [ Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:11 pm ]
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Well thanks for the advice Bros. But I need to update the thread. The uglier chick went haywire and wrote a shut load of stuff last night while I was sleeping. It seems she hates me now and she does my taxes at the company, how could I keep things casual ??
What do you mean by keep things casual? Are we talking friends casual or knocking boots casual?

Why did she go haywire?
Author:  AegonTC [ Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:11 pm ]
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Well thanks for the advice Bros. But I need to update the thread. The uglier chick went haywire and wrote a shut load of stuff last night while I was sleeping. It seems she hates me now and she does my taxes at the company, how could I keep things casual ??
What do you mean by keep things casual? Are we talking friends casual or knocking boots casual?

Why did she go haywire?
She was constantly texting asking (literally) for a kiss. I went to sleep and she offered herself again, I didn't reply so she went crazy because of that. Says I don't give a shit about her and that sort of stuff.

The girl is broken I know... I just told her we should keep things professional.
Author:  dtrak [ Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:48 pm ]
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Could you give ANY more "heady" advice? Shit man... Talk about straight mental masturbation. What the fuck did you even say here guy? And I though I did a lot of drugs............
Is okay majik, you don't have to understand this, is for adults. Now put your helmet back on and eat your soup and potato salad sweetie.
Author:  199Flags [ Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:53 pm ]
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From what I can tell you're not getting enough volume in. If you're hitting the game hard, you won't even remember these interactions.
what this guy said. If you dwell on every failure you have with an 8 and above you'll be out of the game fast.
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