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| Author: | bartm [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | If I only believed, If I only believed :( |
recently I have been going out more and challenging my beliefs. I have started to realize 1) nobody has anything against me 2) you cannot be loved by everybody. you can either be this neutral harmless guy and live a quiet life or you can be loved by some, hated by others 3) I am also starting to see women's vulnerabilities, how they want to look good, how they dont want to look fat, how vulnerable they are to being judged. knowing these vulnerabilities helps me. The only thing missing from the equation is I dont believe. I am like that physics student who believes he sucks at physics and heard it's very hard so he doesn't bother studying because he knows he will fail anyway, but then on the final exam he realizes it was so easy and if he had studied, he could have actually got a good grade. I dont believe. questions: 1) how can get to know women more? I just want to know what it's like being a woman. how they are irrational, how they are vulnerable. because I think I have a very poor understanding of women. 2) more importantly, how can I believe? honestly, I think that is the only thing missing from the equation. If I just believe, my whole life will turn around. |
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| Author: | Mistressmaker [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If I only believed, If I only believed :( |
First of I know I have absolutely no experience compared to you due to the fact that I learned that the game existed yesterday. I do however know a little bit about confidence. I learned my biggest lesson in confidence when I was doing door to door sales. I went in and was ready to take over the world. Every new hire has to shadow a manager for a day before they can go knock on doors by them self, but the day I was suppose to shadow there had accidentally been 2 guys assigned to shadow my manager. Me and another kid. Well you can't go up to a door with 3 people because that's just creepy so we were alternating going up to the door with the manager. After about 3 doors I said fuck it I'll just go by myself because the other kid had no clue what he was doing and needed help more than I did. I led the company in closes that day. The reason why was simple. I got 3 closes that day. Nobody had ever told me what was average in the company, I had no idea that getting 1 close was considered a good day and 3 closes was for the best. I figured that average was probably 5 closes a day, that's what I thought most people in the company got. When I met back up with my manager he was in shock. I out-knocked a division of 30+ guys on my raining day when I wasn't even suppose to knock on the doors by myself. When I got back to the office everyone freaked out, my managers boss bought me a pizza and told me I was going to be great. I worked there three months. I only had 2 other days where I got 3 closes. Most days I got 1 or 0. I went out on my first day with confidence that I would at least be average at this and to me average was 3-5. When they told me I did amazing it made me immediately doubt myself because in my head I was saying "there's no way I'm that good" and from then on I wasn't. Sorry for such a long story, the point is confidence is key. The best way to gain it is to do something that you thing is to easy for you. Your confident you know how to drive a car right? So next time your in a bar/club look around and find a set that when you look your first thought is "I'm way the hell outa there league" and go throw yourself at it. You don't have to take a girl home. The more success you have the higher you will place yourself and I promise you that you will be surprised. You might start the night talking to 2s and 3s and go home with a 8 or 9. My last little bit of knowledge to you is this. The reason you don't understand girls is because they don't even understand themselves. It's proven right here by the fact that the game exists. If they understood that when we opened and then begged and then isolated etc. there wouldn't be a game. Yet we do because it works. The minute you find a girl who knows who she is and understands herself is the minute you find a girl that can't be gamed. At least that's my opinion, and for all you curious bastards out there yes I did end up closing at a door once. Got invited inside and we hooked up in her living room. Why? Because I said with confidence the second she opened the door "hey I know you don't own this house so you don't want to buy anything but I can tell you think I'm cute, nah don't blush it's ok I get that a lot. It's cold though, mind if I come inside?" I didn't get 3 closes for the company that day, but that 1 close was well worth it. To everyone who reads this: I know I'm new and the new guy normally doesn't know shot. I'm just offering my opinions and thoughts. I hope to make many lasting friendships here and cause nobody any problems. If what I have said is wrong just tell me. I've got more to learn than anyone here |
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| Author: | R.C [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If I only believed, If I only believed :( |
Dude you've been here for 4 years. Your only reason for "not believing" is not taking enough actions. You procrastinate. Also, how's your career and social life? you happy with those? |
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| Author: | Style981 [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If I only believed, If I only believed :( |
Quote: 2) more importantly, how can I believe? honestly, I think that is the only thing missing from the equation. If I just believe, my whole life will turn around.
Find some one you within your social circle who has done this. Even though we have a lot of proof on Internet about PUAs, but most of the time people can't relate to them and they just think "That's not me." But if you see some one like you doing it, you get the proof and you start to "believe" that if he can do it I can do it too.
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| Author: | Dragula [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If I only believed, If I only believed :( |
Quote: First of I know I have absolutely no experience compared to you due to the fact that I learned that the game existed yesterday. I do however know a little bit about confidence. I learned my biggest lesson in confidence when I was doing door to door sales. I went in and was ready to take over the world. Every new hire has to shadow a manager for a day before they can go knock on doors by them self, but the day I was suppose to shadow there had accidentally been 2 guys assigned to shadow my manager. Me and another kid. Well you can't go up to a door with 3 people because that's just creepy so we were alternating going up to the door with the manager. After about 3 doors I said fuck it I'll just go by myself because the other kid had no clue what he was doing and needed help more than I did. I led the company in closes that day. The reason why was simple. I got 3 closes that day. Nobody had ever told me what was average in the company, I had no idea that getting 1 close was considered a good day and 3 closes was for the best. I figured that average was probably 5 closes a day, that's what I thought most people in the company got. When I met back up with my manager he was in shock. I out-knocked a division of 30+ guys on my raining day when I wasn't even suppose to knock on the doors by myself. When I got back to the office everyone freaked out, my managers boss bought me a pizza and told me I was going to be great. I worked there three months. I only had 2 other days where I got 3 closes. Most days I got 1 or 0. I went out on my first day with confidence that I would at least be average at this and to me average was 3-5. When they told me I did amazing it made me immediately doubt myself because in my head I was saying "there's no way I'm that good" and from then on I wasn't. Sorry for such a long story, the point is confidence is key. The best way to gain it is to do something that you thing is to easy for you. Your confident you know how to drive a car right? So next time your in a bar/club look around and find a set that when you look your first thought is "I'm way the hell outa there league" and go throw yourself at it. You don't have to take a girl home. The more success you have the higher you will place yourself and I promise you that you will be surprised. You might start the night talking to 2s and 3s and go home with a 8 or 9. My last little bit of knowledge to you is this. The reason you don't understand girls is because they don't even understand themselves. It's proven right here by the fact that the game exists. If they understood that when we opened and then begged and then isolated etc. there wouldn't be a game. Yet we do because it works. The minute you find a girl who knows who she is and understands herself is the minute you find a girl that can't be gamed. At least that's my opinion, and for all you curious bastards out there yes I did end up closing at a door once. Got invited inside and we hooked up in her living room. Why? Because I said with confidence the second she opened the door "hey I know you don't own this house so you don't want to buy anything but I can tell you think I'm cute, nah don't blush it's ok I get that a lot. It's cold though, mind if I come inside?" I didn't get 3 closes for the company that day, but that 1 close was well worth it.
Paragraphs!To everyone who reads this: I know I'm new and the new guy normally doesn't know shot. I'm just offering my opinions and thoughts. I hope to make many lasting friendships here and cause nobody any problems. If what I have said is wrong just tell me. I've got more to learn than anyone here Welcome to the forum;) |
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| Author: | bartm [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If I only believed, If I only believed :( |
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Also, how's your career and social life? you happy with those?
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| Author: | R.C [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If I only believed, If I only believed :( |
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Also, how's your career and social life? you happy with those?
noWomen won't make you happy. You need to be pleased with all 3 main aspects of your life. Once that happens "believing" and a shitload of other things come naturally. |
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| Author: | Dragula [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If I only believed, If I only believed :( |
Imagine walking down the street with 10 million in the bank, ripped with 7% body fat and having only basic skills with the ladies. I would imagine you would just feel entitled to the ladies and would do better than ever. (Not because of the money) It's all syndicated. If you were a ripped, lady killer, you would probably do well in the wealth sector too |
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| Author: | bartm [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If I only believed, If I only believed :( |
you guys are right. I have found that the quality of my professional life and romantic life are directly related, if one sucks, so does the other. but I am not sure if my original post was clear. I just don't believe it's going to work. When I approach a woman, I think I am going to be told "go away" and blown off. When the girl is receptive, I am surprised. For example the other day I was at the store and this girl was showing her friend a picture of herself on her phone. I looked at the picture and told her "wow, you are photogenic." I was expecting her to get creeped out or tell me to go away. But she was soooo happy, it's like I had just given her a million dollars. When a girl gives me the time of the day, I am surprised. maybe because I think I don't deserve it? I am not sure if you guys got what I meant from my original post, but based on your replies I think you did. I am guessing the answer is "approach more" |
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| Author: | Dragula [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: If I only believed, If I only believed :( |
Quote: I am guessing the answer is "approach more"
It really is... Last Saturday I approached a hotty in a supermarket and she was REALLY creeped out. I even felt creepy on the approach. The week before same store, the most friendliest girl you could ever hope meet. I didn't fuck either of them (bf) the point is simple, you're gonna get numerous reactions. Good and bad. Just like cold calling in sales. But you will eventually across someone who is sexually available and you're her type. I wish more people would accept that this is the general conception to seduction. But ego's and being told to fuck off is what separates men from the boys. |
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