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Author:  #mvp [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:38 am ]
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Hi new to the forum.

Just wanted to share a story and hopefully here some suggestions open to any advice or criticism.

Met a girl on a dating site went texting then i called her and we chatted for over an hour and she said the convo went well and i "ticked the boxes" Then when I texted her to meet up she said she needs a break from dating and to be friends. So I left her then she messaged me then we met up and she told me again let's be friends. She is still on the dating site and I am not sure what my next move will be with her.
Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:53 am ]
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She's not interested in you man.
Author:  #mvp [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:56 am ]
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She's not interested in you man.
Did I do something wrong?
Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:02 am ]
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She's not interested in you man.
Did I do something wrong?
I wouldn't say you did something "wrong."

You're just not her type.

So... you're just the wrong guy.
Author:  #mvp [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:15 am ]
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She's not interested in you man.
Did I do something wrong?
I wouldn't say you did something "wrong."

You're just not her type.

So... you're just the wrong guy.

Because she liked me on a dating site but i guess i need to move on.
Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:57 am ]
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I wouldn't say you did something "wrong."

You're just not her type.

So... you're just the wrong guy.
This is wrong. You were her type, you messed up. Here is where:
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then i called her and we chatted for over an hour and she said the convo went well and i "ticked the boxes"
1. Don't spend an hour on the phone with a woman you don't know. Doesn't come off well when she is looking for a high-value man.
2. You 'ticked her boxes' which implies that you were fishing for some kind of acceptance or sign from her that you qualify. This is a very subtle thing, but points out a very distinct inner game mindset that you likely have "I have to qualify for her, she is the one who has standards I have to meet." And whether this was communicated directly or not on the phone, she got the message.

This girl was in fact interested, but you don't give her an incentive to meet you if you completely disqualify yourself over the phone so quick.
Author:  #mvp [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:17 am ]
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I wouldn't say you did something "wrong."

You're just not her type.

So... you're just the wrong guy.
This is wrong. You were her type, you messed up. Here is where:
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then i called her and we chatted for over an hour and she said the convo went well and i "ticked the boxes"
1. Don't spend an hour on the phone with a woman you don't know. Doesn't come off well when she is looking for a high-value man.
2. You 'ticked her boxes' which implies that you were fishing for some kind of acceptance or sign from her that you qualify. This is a very subtle thing, but points out a very distinct inner game mindset that you likely have "I have to qualify for her, she is the one who has standards I have to meet." And whether this was communicated directly or not on the phone, she got the message.

This girl was in fact interested, but you don't give her an incentive to meet you if you completely disqualify yourself over the phone so quick.
Is there anything I can do to turn it around?

Have not spoken to her since after i saw her
Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:24 am ]
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I wouldn't say you did something "wrong."

You're just not her type.

So... you're just the wrong guy.
This is wrong. You were her type, you messed up. Here is where:
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then i called her and we chatted for over an hour and she said the convo went well and i "ticked the boxes"
1. Don't spend an hour on the phone with a woman you don't know. Doesn't come off well when she is looking for a high-value man.
2. You 'ticked her boxes' which implies that you were fishing for some kind of acceptance or sign from her that you qualify. This is a very subtle thing, but points out a very distinct inner game mindset that you likely have "I have to qualify for her, she is the one who has standards I have to meet." And whether this was communicated directly or not on the phone, she got the message.

This girl was in fact interested, but you don't give her an incentive to meet you if you completely disqualify yourself over the phone so quick.
That's the type of guy he is. If he wants to change, he can change. But he didn't do anything "wrong"....

Now, if you want to talk about his neediness, that's what he did "wrong."

So you understand what I'm saying... some girls will like his neediness. So he needs to find a different type of girl or be a different type of guy. It's pretty simple.
Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:33 am ]
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That's the type of guy he is. If he wants to change, he can change. But he didn't do anything "wrong"....

Now, if you want to talk about his neediness, that's what he did "wrong."

So you understand what I'm saying... some girls will like his neediness. So he needs to find a different type of girl or be a different type of guy. It's pretty simple.
Let's help him get his outcomes. In this case it's getting the girl. Since this one is likely already gone, it will have to be the next girl, but telling him outright that he is not the right guy for her does little to help him.
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Is there anything I can do to turn it around?

Have not spoken to her since after i saw her
Likely it is all over man. It sounds like she friendzoned you. However, I would try some more. Just a couple non-needy texts here and there just giving value. Very unlikely to turn it around but worth a shot and worth the practice.
Author:  #mvp [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:14 am ]
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That's the type of guy he is. If he wants to change, he can change. But he didn't do anything "wrong"....

Now, if you want to talk about his neediness, that's what he did "wrong."

So you understand what I'm saying... some girls will like his neediness. So he needs to find a different type of girl or be a different type of guy. It's pretty simple.
Let's help him get his outcomes. In this case it's getting the girl. Since this one is likely already gone, it will have to be the next girl, but telling him outright that he is not the right guy for her does little to help him.
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Is there anything I can do to turn it around?

Have not spoken to her since after i saw her
Likely it is all over man. It sounds like she friendzoned you. However, I would try some more. Just a couple non-needy texts here and there just giving value. Very unlikely to turn it around but worth a shot and worth the practice.

I'm going to text her tomorrow if she wants to hang out if not I will ask her if she can set me up with any of her friends or ask why she liked me in the first place.
Author:  oceanx [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:28 am ]
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Meet more women. She already LJBF'd u. With the next girls don't talk on the phone a lot or text them a lot. Get to know them in person or not at all.

Also you will not get a straight answer if you say "btw can u tell me why you liked me in the first place and then decided you didn't like me." It's not like you're talking to a dude. That logic shit doesn't work. Even if she were to answer the question it would most likely not be the real reason; after all she herself may not even know the real reason; the chemistry just wasn't there. O WELL there are plenty more girls out there.

You've learned a lot from the interaction with this girl; take that info with you as you meet more girls.

I dare you to strike up a casual conversation with a cute girl you see tomorrow IRL and not online.
Author:  R.C [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:30 am ]
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2. You 'ticked her boxes' which implies that you were fishing for some kind of acceptance or sign from her that you qualify. This is a very subtle thing, but points out a very distinct inner game mindset that you likely have "I have to qualify for her, she is the one who has standards I have to meet." And whether this was communicated directly or not on the phone, she got the message.

This girl was in fact interested, but you don't give her an incentive to meet you if you completely disqualify yourself over the phone so quick.
Never thought I'd see the day but I actually agree with this.

Anyway, mvp,
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I'm going to text her tomorrow if she wants to hang out if not I will ask her if she can set me up with any of her friends or ask why she liked me in the first place.
Dude, no. Why in the world would she wanna hang out when she already said she just wants to be friends?
I would not be investing any more time in a lost cause. Your efforts are better concentrated on something else.

Asking her why she liked you in the first place will do no good by you. You want to be your own man. You firstly have to love yourself and also know why.

What defines you? What do you stand for? What would make any woman lucky to have you in her life?
These are questions you must develop yourself to the point of being capable of answering. You cannot mold yourself after what you think women want and especially after what you think ONE woman wants.
Don't become a social chameleon, you'll end up having no depth to your personality and that's not something anyone appreciates.
Author:  #mvp [ Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:33 am ]
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The problem is i am joking around to much with her.
Author:  Dragula [ Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:05 am ]
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The problem is i am joking around to much with her.

Read my sig link

You signed up to this forum for the sake of ONE particularly girl on a dating website. Your neediness is punching me in the face from my phone. She isn't interested and you're trying convince her to like you.

You're doing shit backwards, you're doing online shite because you like to hide and save face. Online dating becomes incredibly easy when you're good with women and you know how to make a move, bruising and mastering your ego, vulnerabilities etc. This comes from the FIELD experience.

You're not in the trenches. You're playing computer games of the trenches, which one is gonna make you more of a man?

Focus on learning to be good with women. So meeting them in real life is step 1. THEN...use online to supplement your game.

You're not immersed. You're already married her in your head when she told you that you ticked her boxes. Be good with women instead, so that you pick women that tick YOUR boxes. See the difference?
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:03 pm ]
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Your next move will be this: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=190620

There girls not giving you what you want and yet you're still giving her more of your time? How is she suppose to respect you? And if she doesn't respect you how can she feel comfortable following you? And if she can't follow you how can you lead her? And if you can't lead her how can you seduce her?
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