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| Author: | The ringer [ Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Anyone ever feel you are over complicating pickup ? |
Sometimes I feel like seduction is so complicated because I'm learning game and that I don't know enough when I am well capable of getting with women and Have no ploblem with it Does anyone else feel the same way as me ? I only feel this way sometimes but when I get in a chatty mood and am in state it completely goes away haha |
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| Author: | Versalis [ Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone ever feel you are over complicating pickup ? |
You probably feel that way because you are. It's not complicated. It's actually very simple. Don't confuse simple with easy and or natural. But there isn't much to learn. Not really. The most important thing for most men to learn is to get out of their own way. The skills you really need are quite small. 1. Learn to look as good as possible all the time. 2. Meet a lot of new women on a regular basis. 3. Learn to screen girls quickly. Only spend time on interested girls. 4. Focus on building sexual tension and stimulating her emotionally. 5. Always move things forward sexually as quickly as possible, without making her very uncomfortable. 6. Always have a plan for how you're going to get her somewhere where you can actually have sex. 7. Never over invest in a girl. If you like her more than she likes you, step back, if you don't walk away altogether. That right there is your primary skill set. That's at least %80 of useful "Game". People get way too wrapped up in shit that doesn't matter. I see lots of guys here reading piles of books and watches loads of videos, but nearly every one of them are failing in one of those seven areas. They don't need to learn "Push-pull" and "AMOG" tactics or have "Texting rules" or piles of other stuff. It's mostly the fundamentals. A lot of guys who come here look like shit and want hot girls. Ain't gonna happen. "Game" is not the "great equalizer". "Game" beyond basic things like general charisma and logistics, almost worthless. Way too many guys are having no success because they barely meet new women. A lot of guys waste a ton of time on girls who aren't into them. MOST new guys simply refuse to see women as sexual beings. They want to hang out with a girl chat with her for hours like a buddy, go on multiple dates without making a single sexual move, and then suddenly whip out their cock and have crazy Bangbus sex. It doesn't work like that. 6 is more of a problem for guys who already know what they're doing with women, but live in a bad place. #7, is probably our second most common problem. Chasing and pining after women who are not into you. Which is a problem that only comes up because of failure in 3, 4 or 5. |
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| Author: | n2thevoid [ Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone ever feel you are over complicating pickup ? |
Most guys say or think too much. The attraction is already there, as Corey Wayne, 60yoc, and Mark Manson state mother nature has already taken care of - you can't deny attraction. The unfortunate part is most guys keep running game, talking etc.. and fuck it up. If a lot of guys just said less and focused more on what THEY want in a partner, the whole process would be much easier. |
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| Author: | lolpants [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone ever feel you are over complicating pickup ? |
Quote: You probably feel that way because you are. It's not complicated. It's actually very simple. Don't confuse simple with easy and or natural. But there isn't much to learn. Not really. The most important thing for most men to learn is to get out of their own way.
The skills you really need are quite small. 1. Learn to look as good as possible all the time. 2. Meet a lot of new women on a regular basis. 3. Learn to screen girls quickly. Only spend time on interested girls. 4. Focus on building sexual tension and stimulating her emotionally. 5. Always move things forward sexually as quickly as possible, without making her very uncomfortable. 6. Always have a plan for how you're going to get her somewhere where you can actually have sex. 7. Never over invest in a girl. If you like her more than she likes you, step back, if you don't walk away altogether. That right there is your primary skill set. That's at least %80 of useful "Game". People get way too wrapped up in shit that doesn't matter. I see lots of guys here reading piles of books and watches loads of videos, but nearly every one of them are failing in one of those seven areas. They don't need to learn "Push-pull" and "AMOG" tactics or have "Texting rules" or piles of other stuff. It's mostly the fundamentals. A lot of guys who come here look like shit and want hot girls. Ain't gonna happen. "Game" is not the "great equalizer". "Game" beyond basic things like general charisma and logistics, almost worthless. Way too many guys are having no success because they barely meet new women. A lot of guys waste a ton of time on girls who aren't into them. MOST new guys simply refuse to see women as sexual beings. They want to hang out with a girl chat with her for hours like a buddy, go on multiple dates without making a single sexual move, and then suddenly whip out their cock and have crazy Bangbus sex. It doesn't work like that. 6 is more of a problem for guys who already know what they're doing with women, but live in a bad place. #7, is probably our second most common problem. Chasing and pining after women who are not into you. Which is a problem that only comes up because of failure in 3, 4 or 5. Cheat sheet of modern PUA....impressive Well done ! |
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| Author: | The ringer [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone ever feel you are over complicating pickup ? |
Quote: You probably feel that way because you are. It's not complicated. It's actually very simple. Don't confuse simple with easy and or natural. But there isn't much to learn. Not really. The most important thing for most men to learn is to get out of their own way.
The skills you really need are quite small. 1. Learn to look as good as possible all the time. 2. Meet a lot of new women on a regular basis. 3. Learn to screen girls quickly. Only spend time on interested girls. 4. Focus on building sexual tension and stimulating her emotionally. 5. Always move things forward sexually as quickly as possible, without making her very uncomfortable. 6. Always have a plan for how you're going to get her somewhere where you can actually have sex. 7. Never over invest in a girl. If you like her more than she likes you, step back, if you don't walk away altogether. That right there is your primary skill set. That's at least %80 of useful "Game". People get way too wrapped up in shit that doesn't matter. I see lots of guys here reading piles of books and watches loads of videos, but nearly every one of them are failing in one of those seven areas. They don't need to learn "Push-pull" and "AMOG" tactics or have "Texting rules" or piles of other stuff. It's mostly the fundamentals. A lot of guys who come here look like shit and want hot girls. Ain't gonna happen. "Game" is not the "great equalizer". "Game" beyond basic things like general charisma and logistics, almost worthless. Way too many guys are having no success because they barely meet new women. A lot of guys waste a ton of time on girls who aren't into them. MOST new guys simply refuse to see women as sexual beings. They want to hang out with a girl chat with her for hours like a buddy, go on multiple dates without making a single sexual move, and then suddenly whip out their cock and have crazy Bangbus sex. It doesn't work like that. 6 is more of a problem for guys who already know what they're doing with women, but live in a bad place. #7, is probably our second most common problem. Chasing and pining after women who are not into you. Which is a problem that only comes up because of failure in 3, 4 or 5. |
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| Author: | Dragula [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone ever feel you are over complicating pickup ? |
Yeah. People over game too much. You spend all this time learning unimportant crap like comfort techniques and then takes some time to unlearn it to focus basic stuff If people focused less on obtaining every girl and focused more on playing the numbers game. We would have less onetitus threads. |
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone ever feel you are over complicating pickup ? |
Complicated people over complicate things. These aren't the days old when living life was a lot more simple; its a complicated time and so that breeds complication on all spectrums. What a complicated statement.. Its definitely a lot more simple that its made to seem. |
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| Author: | Jay (Majik) [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone ever feel you are over complicating pickup ? |
It's not what you do. It's who you are. That's as simple as it can get. |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone ever feel you are over complicating pickup ? |
Get a hard on. Any girl who keeps on looking at the bulge in your pants is interested. Start a convo. Get an instadate. Isolate to your apartment. Escalate. Fuck. The complication starts when you can't get a hard on. That means you're a low testosterone guy and need to workout a lot and cut down on your soda, cakes, donuts and ice cream intakes. And yeah. The most efficient way to build trust and comfort is to release as many oxytocin from the girl as fast as possible. You can accomplish this by holding her hand as early as possible in the interaction and then rubbing your elbow at one of her nipples. I think the formula is like this: 1. Build an emotional connection through your hard throbbing cock. 2. Screen out girls who don't like to look at the bulge in your pants. 3. Approach and open girls who steal glances at your hard on. If they keep on looking at your cock, that means they're emotionally connected to your cock. 4. Build trust and comfort by holding their hands and covertly rubbing your elbows on their nipples. 5. Bounce the girl near your place for an instadate. 6. Isolate to your place. 7. Escalate aggressively. 8. Fuck. |
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