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Author:  bigp17 [ Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:29 am ]
Post subject:  Interested in a customer
So I got sort of a day game question regarding a girl that working at one of my customer workplace.

In the beginning I have only seen her in the hallways and just smiled and she smiled back. Recently I have managed to meet her and do quick conversation with her like "how was your weekend blabla". Mostly I think I have kept my body language open, calm and confident and held the eye contact (not always at her but mostly). I perform best when I improvise and don't plan what to do.

When I have helped her with work related stuff she also seems to be comfortableby standing very close to me. I'm not sure if she acts like this to all or just to me. I haven't managed to do any kino escalation.

On one friday I think I caught her looking at me when walking by me. When I turned my head at her, she didn't know where to look and say, so she just said "have a nice weekend" and I replied "you too, and do not do anything silly this weekend" with a confident smile.

Another day I asked her about how the weekend was blabla and she said that she was going to celebrate her birthday the week after. She was going to have some cake at the workplace and invited me to that if I was going to be there that day. I think I said something like "Yes, I will" and smile.

The next day at work she was preparing her birthday stuff and I managed to see her alone and congratulate her (shake hands). She replied something like: "How formal" with a smile. My plan was to shake her hand and give her a hug as a present, but I chickened out! Good or bad?
Then I asked her about how old she was going to be and she made me guess her age. First I said "3...?" with a smile, and the guessed 26 which is a little under her real age which she liked. Then she asked me about my age and I made her guess too, and she thought I was over 30 (I'm turning 30 this year).
Me: 30+ ? So I look that old?(calm and playful)
She: No, you just look so grown-up.

The day after her birthday I also sent her a text:
"Good morning :) How was your [age minus 5 years] year celebration? I will not be available at your workplace today due to other customer visit blabla. - My name
- She replied positively about 10 mins after.

I think she shows interest in me but sometimes Im not sure if she's just like this to everybody (which is not how I should think). What's your thoughts?

Should should I create more attraction before I ask her out?

And how should I do it? Just go to her office and ask directly I she want's go out for a coffee/drink at xx day?

I also have the opportunity to join her and her coworkers for lunch. How should I "perform" under a lunch situation?
Author:  WillEdward [ Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
I wouldn't game a customer or employee if I were you. I would casually invite her out to social events like happy hour or go to her events and use her as preselection and game other girls. If you insist on gaming her, still see her in the social events and then invite her out to casual drink date and game her normally.
Author:  bigp17 [ Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
Hi,

Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify, she is not my primary contact person at this customer site where I'm working at the moment. She's just one of the many girls who work there.

So there wouldn't be any social events outside their work were this customer would invite me. Best bet is to invite her for a walk in the park/drinks/coffee but I'm not sure when and how to do it in a situation like this.

Also I think I should avoid eating lunch with her and her coworkers (8-10 girls) which could lower my value, right?
Author:  WillEdward [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
You could just game all of her co-workers and get massive social proof and preselection or just network with all of them and gain access to their social circles for more girls, which is better in the long term. If you want to close her now and lower your chances with the other girls, then invite her out for drinks or coffee.
Author:  bigp17 [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
Allright so I asked the girl out to a date today. She did not say no but she did not say a clear yes either. I will just threat it as a yes.
The conversation went something like this:

Me: So youre ready for the weekend? Got plans?
Her: Blabla it depends on the weather blabla whats your plans?
Me: My plans are to go out with you. She responded a little suprised and smiled.
I tried to continue to the time and date but my nerves got me.
Me: Sorry, got a little nervous there (holds up my hand)
She just smiles and talks about what if the weather is bad or something.
Me: Its always nice weather when we're going out. We can take a walk in the park and if the weather's bad we can go to [name of bar] at sunday around 4 o clock.
Me: yes thats a nice place. You got my number right so we can just keep in touch?
I replied that yeah we'll do that and continued the conversation with telling her what my other plans were for the weekend.
She went around to check some work stuff before she walked out of the room and said that she'll see me around with a smile.

My questions:
How should I proceed with the text game now until I see her on sunday (if she suddenly cancels) ?
Could I use some call back humor about my nervousness? Other than that, how do I keep the momentum?

I have seen her at work a few times but I have mostly keept cool, talked to all of the other girls and giver much eye contact and smiles. I haven't done any kino with her (just a handshake). How far should I escalate on the first date?
Author:  bigp17 [ Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
Ok so the date went fine. We talked for 2,5 hours and had to end it because she had a dinner date with a friend. We found alot of shared interests and I got to touch her arm, inside palms and finger tips. The date started and ended with a friendly hug.
We also agreed to cook some food next time. The date we set were 2 weeks ahead from now so how should I proceed the next 2 weeks with her?
Should I add her on facebook and SPAM?
What and how often should I text her?
Author:  bigp17 [ Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
Ok so she came back from her holiday and had been thinking...
She was uncomfortable about dating one she's working with.
She told me this over text and I just replied Ok l understand. Let me know if you want to hang out sometime blabla.

What went wrong here? Did I not create enough attraction?
Author:  Versalis [ Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
No, you didn't make a sexual move. You didn't even so much as kiss this girl. You should be kissing any girl within a half hour of meeting her, with pretty much no exceptions if you two are meeting alone. If you're with friends, you should get her off alone with you some way or another after no more than an hour.

The difference between a buddy and a boyfriend/girlfriend, mostly comes down to sex. If your side of the "date" could have been filled by her brother without it being weird, it was a completely failed date and it's unlikely you'll get a second chance. IF you do, always move as fast as possible.
Author:  bigp17 [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
Quote:
No, you didn't make a sexual move. You didn't even so much as kiss this girl. You should be kissing any girl within a half hour of meeting her, with pretty much no exceptions if you two are meeting alone. If you're with friends, you should get her off alone with you some way or another after no more than an hour.

The difference between a buddy and a boyfriend/girlfriend, mostly comes down to sex. If your side of the "date" could have been filled by her brother without it being weird, it was a completely failed date and it's unlikely you'll get a second chance. IF you do, always move as fast as possible.
Hi, thanks for replying.

So one could escalate much quicker like kissing her on the first date? I was planning on doing that during the 3rd or 4th date. On the first date she did let me touch her hands two times. This is were I should be taking it further to e.g. touching her thighs/hands longer, eye contact and go for the kiss? This was on a midday sunday and she was going to meet a friend after the date, so I thought a kiss would be too direct when I barely knew her. Thoughts?
Author:  Versalis [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
I want to make sure about something, which is your country. Your English seems perfect, so I assumed you were in America. If you plan on 3rd-4th date just for a kiss... it makes me wonder if that assumption is correct.

Things would be potentially quite different in say, an Islamic country like Turkey, or even a South Asian country like Indonesia.

I'll go ahead and assume you're in the West for this reply, but do tell me if you're not. Because that could change a lot.

The first thing you want to do is establish proximity and touching, right away. The reason a kiss seems like it would be awkward is probably because you walked up there separately without touching and sat down across from one another, yes?

I always suggest taking a girl's hand from the moment the date starts and lead her to wherever you're going. If you're both arriving there separately, meet her outside and go in together(again, leading her by her hand). Then, sit next to her. Not across from her, unless there is literally no other seating option. And if there is nothing but little tables with two chairs, it's a bad date location and you really need to find another in the future.

Once you're sitting next to each other for a while, she should be comfortable with you. When she's in a good mood and smiling, that's when you kiss her. She's very unlikely to react badly to this, unless she's just not sexually interested in you. And then it's still good to do it early, so you know up front where you stand.
Author:  bigp17 [ Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
Quote:
I want to make sure about something, which is your country. Your English seems perfect, so I assumed you were in America. If you plan on 3rd-4th date just for a kiss... it makes me wonder if that assumption is correct.

Things would be potentially quite different in say, an Islamic country like Turkey, or even a South Asian country like Indonesia.

I'll go ahead and assume you're in the West for this reply, but do tell me if you're not. Because that could change a lot.

The first thing you want to do is establish proximity and touching, right away. The reason a kiss seems like it would be awkward is probably because you walked up there separately without touching and sat down across from one another, yes?

I always suggest taking a girl's hand from the moment the date starts and lead her to wherever you're going. If you're both arriving there separately, meet her outside and go in together(again, leading her by her hand). Then, sit next to her. Not across from her, unless there is literally no other seating option. And if there is nothing but little tables with two chairs, it's a bad date location and you really need to find another in the future.


Once you're sitting next to each other for a while, she should be comfortable with you. When she's in a good mood and smiling, that's when you kiss her. She's very unlikely to react badly to this, unless she's just not sexually interested in you. And then it's still good to do it early, so you know up front where you stand.
Im located in Norway so that's pretty much a western country like.USA.

In this first date I met her outside and greeted her with a friendly hug. I located a table with a couch and told her that we shouød sit there and went up to the bar for order drinks (payed separately like I would do with a friend). When I sat down in the couch, she sat down next to me. In beginning we sat 2-3 feet away but later we or me started to tilt more closer to her. We also touched hands two times (feeling eachothers hands) and she smiled a lot during the conversation. This is were I could go for the kiss?
Author:  Versalis [ Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
Yep.
It sounds like you were already %90 of the way there.
Author:  bigp17 [ Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
Quote:
Yep.
It sounds like you were already %90 of the way there.
Yeah yeay better learn remember that for the next situation.

Instead of escalating anymore I set up a 2nd date with her walked out with her for a couple of blocks before saying goodbye and give her a friendly hug.

I met her the next day at work and casually invited her to join me for lunch. I texted her something like "Thanks for yesterday. Im going to eat some blabla, you should join me if you have time".
She came over to me to meet me in person, asked me some work related questions and said that she was going earlier at lunch with some of her coworkers. I said that was too early for me and she started asking some questions about my eating schedules, when I wake up in the morning etc. before going back to work.
Later that day I said goodbye to her and wished her a good holiday. I felt that I couldn't give her any hug as this was in her office were some coworkers could come in.

Later the following week I texted her with somthing like "hows your holiday going blabla". 2 short textconversations within a week before she told me that she had been thinking and didnt want to date somebody who she's working with, as I have mentioned before.

So this is a example of important it is to escalate correctly?
Or if I had gotten to the kiss phase, it might not have changed the outcome?
Author:  lolpants [ Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
Quote:
I want to make sure about something, which is your country. Your English seems perfect, so I assumed you were in America. If you plan on 3rd-4th date just for a kiss... it makes me wonder if that assumption is correct.

Things would be potentially quite different in say, an Islamic country like Turkey, or even a South Asian country like Indonesia.

I'll go ahead and assume you're in the West for this reply, but do tell me if you're not. Because that could change a lot.

The first thing you want to do is establish proximity and touching, right away. The reason a kiss seems like it would be awkward is probably because you walked up there separately without touching and sat down across from one another, yes?

I always suggest taking a girl's hand from the moment the date starts and lead her to wherever you're going. If you're both arriving there separately, meet her outside and go in together(again, leading her by her hand). Then, sit next to her. Not across from her, unless there is literally no other seating option. And if there is nothing but little tables with two chairs, it's a bad date location and you really need to find another in the future.

Once you're sitting next to each other for a while, she should be comfortable with you. When she's in a good mood and smiling, that's when you kiss her. She's very unlikely to react badly to this, unless she's just not sexually interested in you. And then it's still good to do it early, so you know up front where you stand.

This is very helpful versalis !
Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Interested in a customer
There are soooo many girls out there. Why MUST you want one of the girls involved in making your income?
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