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Author:  silverback [ Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:26 am ]
Post subject:  Need Waitress Help!
What up everyone? So there is this waitress I like and I need a little help with reading the signs and figuring out how to get her email/number. I believe she is interested in me. When my friend and I enter the bar she always goes out of her way to get my attention. I will be standing there and she sneaks up behind and taps me on the head. I turn and she always gives me a huge hug. She then continues the rest of the night to do flirty little things like dance in front of me when she walks by or give me a fake punch and so on.

So anyway assuming she is interested what next? I'm sure she gets hit on a lot! I do not want to come across as just another tool trying to hit on her! I think I'm alreay half way in, but I don't want to screw it up and that makes me even more nervous. Talking to her for any length of time is almost out of the question as she is always very busy. Any advice would be great! I would especially love to hear other guys stories on how they scored the waitress.

Thanks
Author:  Element [ Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:48 am ]
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Hitting on the help is always fun.
I do all sorts of things with waitresses.
Half the time it's just to amuse myself.

Minor example:

I was at a restaurant with a buddy of mine.
Waitress came, I asked her opinion on something obscene,
blah blah blah.

She comes back with our drinks, and I say to my buddy:

Me: "See, what'd I tell you?"
Waitress: "What?"
Me: "I knew you'd come back."
Waitress laughs.
Me: "It's like we've got some kind of special connection..."

At this point, you could run an ESP routine, whatever, I just kept the frame of "she must be obsessed with me", accusing her of stalking, etc.

There's all kinds of things you can do with waitresses.


I don't know if that helped... hopefully it did.
Author:  requiem [ Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:03 pm ]
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yeah waitresses and bar tenders get hit on a lot. what i do to high success is get them out of thier routine of service. when they first come over to the table and spew thier memorized specials and ask what they can get you to drink i say "so how long did it take you to memorize all that?"

watch the eyelashes go bonkers as they try to think ths one through. it totally throws off thier equilibrium. then after they recover from that they keep tring to get back into thier regular server routine. they'll ask what you'd like for side orders. i say to them "i'm gonna put you on the spot here. you work here, pick what you think i'd enjoy". now they have a personal investment in your evening. when they come back for thier required time to "check how everyhthing is", get her to answer a personal opinion question. i frequently use the "my friend was running late for a date last night and she left before he got there. he really likes the girl, but she feels stood up now. what would you want him to do to smooth things over if you were the girl?". just this weekend i did this to my waitress at outback and she had all the girls in the entire resteraunt stopping by to answer the question. it was too easy. and when you're done with the meal ask "can i get your number" while you make the little "check" gesture. she'll react with her routine and say sure. then you have her! she has to give you the # or look like she messed up. it's saving face for her, and shows you're playful too.
Author:  Mister War [ Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:59 pm ]
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Requiem. Very smooth.

Please explain that last part. The check gesture/getting her number bit. I don't understand exactly what you did. how does giving her number "save face"?
Author:  VitalEyes [ Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:13 pm ]
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*scribbles requiem's suggestions on peice of paper*

Requiem, that was some nice advice, thanks! Sounds like something which would fit my game quite well and suit my routine. Good stuff mate.
Author:  requiem [ Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:00 am ]
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aha! the check gesture is that little up and down motion you make with your forefinger and thumb together drawing a little "check mark" in the air. it's kind of the universal "i'd like to pay now" gesture for when the waitress is way accross the resteraunt.

as for the "saving face" when they answer the question they were expecting, not what you asked, the fact is that she gets caught out making a mistake, and now has lost value inyour eyes. she then feels like she has to regain that value. girls hate it when they're perceived as being wrong. it doesn't fit in thier little worlds that they are in any way capable of mistakes. so since she answered in the affirmative expecting you to be asking for the bill, it puts her in a position of either refusing and showing she wasn't listening to you (being wrong), and hence be seen as having less social value for not paying attention, or to actually give you her number in order to maintain, or rather regain her value. and lets face it, a girl would much rather give out her # than be looked at as dumb or wrong. i admit it's kinda sneaky, but hey, it helps her get over her bitch shields, gets you her #, and if you were gaming her right she wants you to have it anyway. everybody wins in the end :)
Author:  Impact [ Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:46 am ]
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Just my opinion.

"can i get your number"

I liked your game Requiem but i really don't like that horrible close! She can easily say, no! you can't! Your asking her if she can give it to you? your begging almost. Its not alpha male! But besides that, well done, good game!
Author:  Element [ Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:11 am ]
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Quote:
Just my opinion.

"can i get your number"

I liked your game Requiem but i really don't like that horrible close! She can easily say, no! you can't! Your asking her if she can give it to you? your begging almost. Its not alpha male! But besides that, well done, good game!
According to Requiem, he asks while subtly doing the "give me the check" motions.
Apparently, given the right timing, she'll give her automatic response to
"could I get the check please".
Which will then put her in an odd situation when she realizes what you said.
So no, he's not just being a dunce, outright asking for the number.
He's throwing her off.

I probably won't try it myself... but if it works for him, then it works.
Author:  requiem [ Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:05 pm ]
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impact i kinda agree on my close. asking for the number outright is kinda lame, and i have been trying to come up with something else, but i'm not sure what else would work. the only reason i use it IS because it throws them off thier routine. and yes they can say no, but i really feel like if i've been playing my game right, they want to give me thier # anyway. and if they say no, well, there's another waitress the next aisle over that i'm sure will. but withy them being in the service industry there's a kind of ettiquette they have to follow, and that's "don't hit on the customers, you're here to work, not flirt". so to get past that barrier sometimes you just have to go all in. so if you have any other # close suggestions i could tack on i'd love to hear em, but for now it seems to work for me. always looking for any improvements though :)
Author:  Fierce [ Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:28 am ]
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might just be friends.
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